<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Design doc (long) --> <!--X-From-R13: @nguna T Kbfcr <lbfcrNunjnvv.rqh> --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 12:11:56 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.GSO.3.96.981223084206.12355A-100000@uhunix2 --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199812230501.VAA17852#cashew,snugharbor.com.snugharbor.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Design doc (long)</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg01047.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01050.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg01031.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00951.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#01048">Author</A> | <A HREF="#01048">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#01048">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Design doc (long)</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: "T. Alexander Popiel" <<A HREF="mailto:popiel#snugharbor,com">popiel#snugharbor,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Design doc (long) </LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Nathan F Yospe <<A HREF="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 09:31:14 -1000</LI> <LI><em>cc</em>: Mud Design Mailing List <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Tue, 22 Dec 1998, T. Alexander Popiel wrote: :In message: <<A HREF="msg01047.html">Pine.GSO.3.96.981219175050.4616B-100000@uhunix2</A>> : Nathan F Yospe <yospe#hawaii,edu> writes: I'm sending this back on-list... :>Which rarely helps the illusion. The flaw, IMO, lies in the treatment of :>verbs. If a verb exists, it should exist universally, if you intend some :>form of global consistancy to be an objective. Returned messages must be :>generated by the verb, as above, but they should also be sensitive to an :>environmental failure... :Really? I'd want 'draw' to mean two quite different things when :used with a sword or with a grease pencil. How do you make this :a universal verb without severe warts? (Of course, this could :be used as a situation where global consistency is not the goal.) No, it's perfectly usable with global consistancy. I use probability and possibility to resolve these issues at interpretation. The X most likely interpretations (where X is simply the number that survived discard) get compared for situational likelyhood... to illustrate: Case: Man with history indicating knowledge of guns and art, but with no pencil, and unarmed... no history of cardplaying > draw sixgun You reach for your sixgun, and find yourself unarmed. > draw You glance around for a writing instrument, but fail to find one. Case: Armed cardshark, no threat > draw You draw a jack of hearts. Case: Armed cardshark, high temper, losing > draw You pull your sixgun. (draw does not initiate shooting) Case: Pacifist artist with no card skills in a tavern, surrounded and under attack by armed thugs > draw You pull out your pad and charcoal and nervously begin sketching. I found the following synonyms* for "draw" in my database: Synonym Correlation Familiarity Sketch 96 90 Take <weapon> [holder] 70 45 Take <card> 60 40 Take <object> [container] 22 40 Correlations less than 20 won't show on query, though if there is a gain in correlation during training, other synonyms may appear... Note that a given character file on a client will inevitably develop correlation and familiarity for each verb (and noun, etc) far different from the base. A given character file may well have a correlation of 99 (max) for drawing a weapon, and only 40 for sketching something. There are also couples of synonyms for draw... "draw <fluid>", for example. That last one, with 22 correlation, has correlation 89 for "draw <object> [container]". Most of these synonyms were extracted from an electronic thesaurus file, but I'm always adding new ones... *synonym actually means highest correlation textual synonym for whatever token-concept the original synonym search pulled up. The database search drew four large numbers. Each number was linked to an ordered word list, the first word of which claimed the highest correlation and familiarity. (Currenlty, I just use the product of the two factors... I still think I should be able to come up with a better algorithm.) There you go, people... a little more info on the inner workings of that client I'm always talking about... next time, maybe I'll explain how the training net operates on the two databases each time there is a query to the interpreter... and after that, perhaps I'll talk about the server or the network coordination scheme... -- Nathan F. Yospe - Born in the year of the tiger, riding it forever after University of Hawaii at Manoa, Dept of Physics, second year senior (joy) (On Call) Associate Algorithm Developer, Textron Systems Corp, Maui Ops. yospe#hawaii.edu <A HREF="http://www2.hawaii.edu/~yospe">http://www2.hawaii.edu/~yospe</A> Non commercial email only </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01047.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Design doc (long)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01050.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Graphic design, client questions</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01031.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Design doc (long)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00951.html">[MUD-Dev] A short introduction of a (quite) long-time lurker</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#01048"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#01048"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Design doc (long)</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="01001" HREF="msg01001.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Design doc (long)</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Fri 18 Dec 1998, 22:16 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01030" HREF="msg01030.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Design doc (long)</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Mon 21 Dec 1998, 23:31 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="01007" HREF="msg01007.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Design doc (long)</A></strong>, Benjamin D. Wiechel <a href="mailto:strycher#toast,net">strycher#toast,net</a>, Fri 18 Dec 1998, 23:38 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01031" HREF="msg01031.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Design doc (long)</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Mon 21 Dec 1998, 23:34 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01048" HREF="msg01048.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Design doc (long)</A></strong>, Nathan F Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Wed 23 Dec 1998, 20:11 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00951" HREF="msg00951.html">[MUD-Dev] A short introduction of a (quite) long-time lurker</A></strong>, Per Vognsen <a href="mailto:vognsen#post10,tele.dk">vognsen#post10,tele.dk</a>, Fri 11 Dec 1998, 16:39 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00949" HREF="msg00949.html">[MUD-Dev] MUD Design doc (long)</A></strong>, Thinus Barnard <a href="mailto:thinus_barnard#bigfoot,com">thinus_barnard#bigfoot,com</a>, Fri 11 Dec 1998, 09:29 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00936" HREF="msg00936.html">[MUD-Dev] ADMIN: (IMPORTNANT) Server down time and possible service interruption</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Tue 08 Dec 1998, 01:56 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00935" HREF="msg00935.html">[MUD-Dev] Error tolerant UDP data streams</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Tue 08 Dec 1998, 01:40 GMT </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>