<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign) --> <!--X-From-R13: Egrir Ecnexf <ffcnexfNravtzn.fff.bet> --> <!--X-Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:49:57 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.LNX.3.96.981020114400.10472G-100000#enigma,sss.org --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 000401bdfc46$57f7a680$2187ebcd@k6 --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:ssparks#enigma,sss.org"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00275.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00277.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00272.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00273.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00276">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00276">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00276">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Steve Sparks <<A HREF="mailto:ssparks#enigma,sss.org">ssparks#enigma,sss.org</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:46:15 -0500 (CDT)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> > > >> Now, back to school. What is a definition of a normal play? > > > >Strict: play that obeys the intent of the rules created by the games' > >designers. > > > >Loose: whatever keeps the most players happy. > > > >Crack programs break both of these. I have NEVER seen a game where > >prevalence of hack programs was regarded as a good thing by either the > >designers or the playerbase as a whole. > > > >-Raph > > The character backup program for Diablo(tm) for online playing. > I believe some of these allowed you to duplicate items, but the > one I had around did not. Thus, it was handy when you wanted to > play by yourself, or in a locked game with a pal and didn't want > to worry about all of the cheaters coming in and slaughtering > you. Shrug. > -Q- That sounds like normal play to me :) Did you ever try the diablo dup bug where you login and drop all your gold then hit alt-f4? :-P Steve </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00272" HREF="msg00272.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "quzah [sotfhome]" <quzah#softhome,net></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00275.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World Design)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00277.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00272.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00273.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00276"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00276"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00282" HREF="msg00282.html">[MUD-Dev] Lengthy Palace study</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 02:13 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00271" HREF="msg00271.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Tue 20 Oct 1998, 15:04 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00278" HREF="msg00278.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 00:38 GMT </LI> </UL> <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00272" HREF="msg00272.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</A></strong>, quzah [sotfhome] <a href="mailto:quzah#softhome,net">quzah#softhome,net</a>, Tue 20 Oct 1998, 16:24 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00276" HREF="msg00276.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</A></strong>, Steve Sparks <a href="mailto:ssparks#enigma,sss.org">ssparks#enigma,sss.org</a>, Tue 20 Oct 1998, 17:49 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00273" HREF="msg00273.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Tue 20 Oct 1998, 17:05 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00256" HREF="msg00256.html">[MUD-Dev] GameStorm</A></strong>, Matthew R. Sheahan <a href="mailto:chaos#crystal,palace.net">chaos#crystal,palace.net</a>, Tue 20 Oct 1998, 01:55 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00258" HREF="msg00258.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: GameStorm</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Tue 20 Oct 1998, 02:39 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00245" HREF="msg00245.html">[MUD-Dev] FW: Book?</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Mon 19 Oct 1998, 16:34 GMT </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>