<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: openmud: open issues --> <!--X-From-R13: Hnqvz Fxnpuraxb <igNserrubyq.pebpbqvyr.bet> --> <!--X-Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 20:10:14 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 36393B52.4ACD20B3#freehold,crocodile.org --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 98102509263204.22929@d185d1e96 --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: openmud: open issues</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00584.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00586.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00486.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00590.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00585">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00585">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00585">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: openmud: open issues</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: openmud: open issues</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Vadim Tkachenko <<A HREF="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:06:42 -0600</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> James Wilson wrote: > > I'd like to set down the design issues that have come up, in short pithy blurbs. > Please add to this list: > > 1. implementation language: C/C++/others? Any, provided they all modularized and support the common communication protocol. > 2. target architectures: posix/Win32/others? Does it matter? > 3. threads: emulated in-core? using native threads? no threads at all? "TheThread" abstraction. If it doesn't exist for a selected combination of language/platform, too bad - probably you made a wrong selection. > 5. module system: what goes in the core, and what comprises a module? > how do modules interact? see (1) > 6. distribution: should an explicit design goal be to support a distributed > mud? Yes > what are the requirements? See (1) > 7. database: disk-based DB? distributed DB? "Storage system" abstraction. > is this invisible to the programmer? Yes. > what is the DB model (object vs relational vs ...)? Doesn't matter > could there be multiple DB's? Why not? > 8. memory management: garbage collection? explicit allocation/deallocation? At least some kind of smart pointer with a mark-n-sweep or reference counter, the latter is better in the languages like C++ where it's possible to have static/automatic objects behave as their dynamic counterparts (explanation will follow if there's enough demand; I had a very stable implementation working exactly the same for MS-DOS, Windows and OS/2, only Java prevented it from existing in UNIX incarnation) > 9. overall goals. 'a really fast mud'? 'a really scalable mud'? 'a really > usable mud'? 'a really advanced mud'? A really extensible MUD > James -- Still alive and smile stays on, Vadim Tkachenko <vt#freehold,crocodile.org> -- UNIX _is_ user friendly, he's just very picky about who his friends are </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00590" HREF="msg00590.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: openmud: open issues</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> James Wilson <jwilson#rochester,rr.com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00486" HREF="msg00486.html">[MUD-Dev] openmud: open issues</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> James Wilson <jwilson#rochester,rr.com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00584.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: DevMUD: Inheritable modules</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00586.html">[MUD-Dev] META/ADMIN: CVS for DevMUD security</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00486.html">[MUD-Dev] openmud: open issues</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00590.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: openmud: open issues</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00585"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00585"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: DevMUD - thoughts.1</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00500" HREF="msg00500.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: DevMUD - thoughts.1</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sun 25 Oct 1998, 22:38 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00488" HREF="msg00488.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: OpenMUD: bus-based communications</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sun 25 Oct 1998, 16:03 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00496" HREF="msg00496.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: OpenMUD: bus-based communications</A></strong>, Niklas Elmqvist <a href="mailto:d97elm#dtek,chalmers.se">d97elm#dtek,chalmers.se</a>, Sun 25 Oct 1998, 19:52 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00486" HREF="msg00486.html">[MUD-Dev] openmud: open issues</A></strong>, James Wilson <a href="mailto:jwilson#rochester,rr.com">jwilson#rochester,rr.com</a>, Sun 25 Oct 1998, 14:37 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00585" HREF="msg00585.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: openmud: open issues</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Fri 30 Oct 1998, 04:10 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00590" HREF="msg00590.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: openmud: open issues</A></strong>, James Wilson <a href="mailto:jwilson#rochester,rr.com">jwilson#rochester,rr.com</a>, Fri 30 Oct 1998, 12:23 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00609" HREF="msg00609.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: openmud: open issues</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Sat 31 Oct 1998, 01:55 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00485" HREF="msg00485.html">[MUD-Dev] openmud or pdmud or devmud</A></strong>, James Wilson <a href="mailto:jwilson#rochester,rr.com">jwilson#rochester,rr.com</a>, Sun 25 Oct 1998, 14:16 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00494" HREF="msg00494.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: openmud or pdmud or devmud</A></strong>, Darrin Hyrup <a href="mailto:shades#mythicgames,com">shades#mythicgames,com</a>, Sun 25 Oct 1998, 18:07 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>