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<LI><em>To</em>: "'<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>'" <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI>
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<LI><em>From</em>: "Wilburn, E.J." <<A HREF="mailto:WilburnE#kochind,com">WilburnE#kochind,com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:07:03 -0500</LI>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marc Hernandez [SMTP:marc#jb,com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 1998 2:21 PM
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> Is there any way to stop other processes from at least writing and
> preferebly both reading and writing a Win 95/98/NT processes memory? Is
> there
> any way to stop programs from being run via a debugger or at least detect
> it?
>
> Marc Hernandez marc#eisoftware,com
> Programmer www.eisoftware.com
>
I don't know if you're at all familiar with Subspace from Virgin Interactive
<<A HREF="http://www.vie.com/subspace">http://www.vie.com/subspace</A>>, but they would attempt to detect any
debuggers in memory and then log the IP address of the system attempting to
debug their program. I'm not sure how well it worked but the few months I
spent playing SubSpace were relatively cheat free. I'm not sure as to the
exact implementation since they didn't pass that information out for obvious
reasons. I'm assuming they probably just search through the task list
and/or window list for certain identifying strings.
-E.J. Wilburn
WilburnE#Kochind,com
zane#supernova,org
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00358" HREF="msg00358.html">[MUD-Dev] ADMIN: Unsubscriptions</A></strong>,
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