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<H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</H1>
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<LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: Chris Gray &lt;<A HREF="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</A>&gt;</LI>
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[Jon Leonard:]

 &gt;Even if there isn't interest, figuring out a base feature set would be
 &gt;useful, and I'd extract parts of my own server to match.  (I have a fully
 &gt;RFC compliant telnet server, which I could disentangle from the rest of my
 &gt;code, for example.)

Hmm. That's just what I'm working on now. Stole the code from earlier
stuff. Do you handle all of the RFC's, including things like LINEMODE?
I was planning on cleaning up my stuff when done and offering it as an
example of telnet handling. Two examples are likely better than one!

 &gt;If there isn't a clear idea of what would be a useful base to extend on,
 &gt;that says something very interesting about the future of MUD design.

Perhaps that a lot of those writing servers from scratch are doing it
mostly for fun? Either that or are doing commercial projects where the
use of outside code might present legal problems?
:-)

I'd be game to do an in-MUD programming language component, but I betcha
few people would like the language (mostly strongly typed, syntax not
at all like C, etc.)

-- 
Chris Gray     cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA


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<LI><strong><A NAME="00223" HREF="msg00223.html">[MUD-Dev] OT: TTYQuake</A></strong>, 
Niklas Elmqvist <a href="mailto:d97elm#dtek,chalmers.se">d97elm#dtek,chalmers.se</a>, Fri 16 Oct 1998, 05:41 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00228" HREF="msg00228.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: OT: TTYQuake</A></strong>, 
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Fri 16 Oct 1998, 18:22 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00229" HREF="msg00229.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: OT: TTYQuake</A></strong>, 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00219" HREF="msg00219.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</A></strong>, 
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Thu 15 Oct 1998, 21:47 GMT
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Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Mon 19 Oct 1998, 23:37 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00253" HREF="msg00253.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Tue 20 Oct 1998, 00:05 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00255" HREF="msg00255.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</A></strong>, 
Jon Leonard <a href="mailto:jleonard#divcom,slimy.com">jleonard#divcom,slimy.com</a>, Tue 20 Oct 1998, 01:37 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00268" HREF="msg00268.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</A></strong>, 
Jon Leonard <a href="mailto:jleonard#divcom,slimy.com">jleonard#divcom,slimy.com</a>, Tue 20 Oct 1998, 06:01 GMT
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