<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] openmud or pdmud or devmud --> <!--X-From-R13: Xnzrf Ivyfba <wjvyfbaNebpurfgre.ee.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 06:16:17 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 98102509052002.22929@d185d1e96 --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] openmud or pdmud or devmud</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:jwilson#rochester,rr.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00484.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00486.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00609.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00494.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00485">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00485">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00485">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] openmud or pdmud or devmud</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] openmud or pdmud or devmud</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: James Wilson <<A HREF="mailto:jwilson#rochester,rr.com">jwilson#rochester,rr.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 08:38:02 -0500</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> seems like the first thing people need to agree on is what name to use. ;) I like OpenMud myself. PDMud sounds like there'll be a lot of sex there. DevMud is kind of stodgy. There's always the Python option, i.e. go with something that just sounds good. but maybe before that, it should be determined who is involved and what the roles are. There's been a lot of design thrash lately, which can be good, but I recall numerous similar threads (not on this list) where people had lots of grand ideas but no code ever got written. The Perfect is the enemy of the Good, cf. the Hurd project. Anyways, I guess there are two things that I think need to get resolved. 1. Who's in charge? Is it 'the consensus of mud-dev#kanga,nu'? Is it 'Bibi and Bill and Yasser, but definitely NOT Muammar'? Is it 'Linus Torvalds alone'? I'd like to believe that something good would happen without such a fascist structure, but I'm a little bit cynical. Someone (maybe multiple someones) need to decide on big things like What License To Use, and have their decisions accepted. (I would imagine that different modules could be distributed under different licenses. However, the core should probably be licensed as a unit.) 2. Who's going to do what? When? A number of fundamental design issues need to be resolved fairly quickly if any further work is to be done. It's fun to argue about grand design schemes, but at the end of the day one has to make some difficult choices and stick with them. Whatever design is arrived at needs to be documented thoroughly so people know how to proceed. I don't want to be the cause of needless bureaucracy, but we need to formalize things so everybody understands one another. I'm itching to implement something (as are, I think, many others who have leapt up and shouted 'YES!'). I don't want it to fall apart in a month or two, though, which is why I'm being so fussy and corporate. James </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00525" HREF="msg00525.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: openmud or pdmud or devmud</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Jon Leonard <jleonard#divcom,slimy.com></li></ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00494" HREF="msg00494.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: openmud or pdmud or devmud</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Darrin Hyrup <shades#mythicgames,com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00484.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00486.html">[MUD-Dev] openmud: open issues</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00609.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: openmud: open issues</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00494.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: openmud or pdmud or devmud</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00485"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00485"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00486" HREF="msg00486.html">[MUD-Dev] openmud: open issues</A></strong>, James Wilson <a href="mailto:jwilson#rochester,rr.com">jwilson#rochester,rr.com</a>, Sun 25 Oct 1998, 14:37 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00585" HREF="msg00585.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: openmud: open issues</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Fri 30 Oct 1998, 04:10 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00590" HREF="msg00590.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: openmud: open issues</A></strong>, James Wilson <a href="mailto:jwilson#rochester,rr.com">jwilson#rochester,rr.com</a>, Fri 30 Oct 1998, 12:23 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00609" HREF="msg00609.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: openmud: open issues</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Sat 31 Oct 1998, 01:55 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00485" HREF="msg00485.html">[MUD-Dev] openmud or pdmud or devmud</A></strong>, James Wilson <a href="mailto:jwilson#rochester,rr.com">jwilson#rochester,rr.com</a>, Sun 25 Oct 1998, 14:16 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00494" HREF="msg00494.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: openmud or pdmud or devmud</A></strong>, Darrin Hyrup <a href="mailto:shades#mythicgames,com">shades#mythicgames,com</a>, Sun 25 Oct 1998, 18:07 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00505" HREF="msg00505.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: openmud or pdmud or devmud</A></strong>, Hal Black <a href="mailto:hal#moos,ml.org">hal#moos,ml.org</a>, Mon 26 Oct 1998, 01:00 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00525" HREF="msg00525.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: openmud or pdmud or devmud</A></strong>, Jon Leonard <a href="mailto:jleonard#divcom,slimy.com">jleonard#divcom,slimy.com</a>, Tue 27 Oct 1998, 00:25 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00526" HREF="msg00526.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: openmud or pdmud or devmud</A></strong>, Adam J. Thornton <a href="mailto:adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU">adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU</a>, Tue 27 Oct 1998, 00:54 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>