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<LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</A></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 08 May 97 12:29:48 -0700</LI>
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<PRE>
Aside: I've been really hoping to get some more RP type members in
here. I suspect we tend to get more than a little buried in the
technical aspects of the games and lose sight of the RP underpinnings
(me especially as I don't RP at all).
In <Marcel-1.09-0508162555-b49Ky&5#Gryphon,iaehv.nl>, on 05/08/97
at 09:19 PM, Marian Griffith <gryphon#iaehv,nl> said:
>On Tue 06 May, clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote:
>> What with the recent discussion of parsers and methods of parsing
>> commands, and old entry from my to-do list popped up:
>> Support for prepositions such as "under", "on top of", "behind" etc.
>Jumping in the middle of a discussion with my first post to this
>list...
Go for it.
>...and at the risk of pointing out what's been said many times
>before.. You should start out by knowing where things are with
>respect to each other. At the moment it seems that games only know
>about 'inside' and 'outside', and there's no 'real-thing feeling' to
>them when interacting. I.e. they have no size, weight or true
>position. Unless you have those there seems to be little point in
>thinking about more complicated ways of locating things.
True. I'm attempting to resolve this from several angles, including
moving to a real coordinate space system, giving objects dimensions,
doing collision detection for things like trying to fit a dragon thru
a mousehole or a boulder into a purse. etc. I suspect to really
resolve the job I'll have to move to a 3D graphical system (I'm
already leaning that way), but I'd like and try and resolve the
virtual aspects first (which text represents perfectly),
I really want to to make objects generic. I want some player to be
able to take some clothes, a couple branches and a broomstick, make a
scarecrow, cast a spell on it to animate it, and Voila! Have a
mobile. I want a player to be able to take a couple pebbles, put them
in a small box, seal the box, and instantly have a rattle. It this
interpretive behaviour of objects that I think is the *real* key.
As a start on such, given a coordinate space say, (and no, the user
won't ever see X,Y,Z coordinates) the question is how to parse and
handle prepositions. I know the LIMA MUDLib can do it -- anybody here
familiar with it, or want to dig into it?
--
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<LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Comments on the DB layer</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00608" HREF="msg00608.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Comments on the DB layer</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00326" HREF="msg00326.html">Prepositions and parsing</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00333" HREF="msg00333.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Prepositions and parsing</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00337" HREF="msg00337.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Prepositions and parsing</A></strong>,
Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Fri 09 May 1997, 05:30 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00351" HREF="msg00351.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Prepositions and parsing</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00371" HREF="msg00371.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Prepositions and parsing</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00473" HREF="msg00473.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Prepositions and parsing</A></strong>,
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