<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Prepositions and parsing --> <!--X-From-R13: ptNnzv-pt.UenlEntr.Sqzbagba.OP.QO (Quevf Uenl) --> <!--X-Date: from babe.globecomm.net [207.51.48.8] by mx4.ibm.net id 863621876.58024-1 Wed May 14 14:57:56 1997 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 9705141459.804u@ami-cg.GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Prepositions and parsing</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00461.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00465.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00557.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00506.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00462">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00462">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00462">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Prepositions and parsing</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Prepositions and parsing</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</A> (Chris Gray)</LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 14 May 97 07:59:38 MST</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> [Chris L:] :It seems more friendly and not terribly more expensive to me to have :the parse try and resolve *both* sides of the ambiguity, and to then :pick as to which is supportable in the current context. Doing that requires more smarts in the parser than I want to put into it. I don't want the "parser" to understand the concepts of 'under', 'behind', etc., but to just know that they are acceptable for use with 'put'. :Bingo. And here it gets really messy. You end up with a really :glorious hodge-podge between a global parser and a a per-object :parser. Consider the case of: : : shoot the paper under the book on the table : :Does that mean to shoot the paper which is located under a book which :is located on the table, or to shoot a free paper such that it moves :to be under the book which is located on the table, or to shoot the :paper such that it moves from under the book to being on the table? How unhappy would a typical player be if told that the above is ambiguous? Or that there is no paper nearby (even if there is some under the book)? It's likely such a rare case those most would wave it off. In English we disambuate such things by a slight rephrasing: shoot the paper which is under the book on the table shoot the paper under the book which is on the table Perhaps handling syntax something like that is a way to go? -- Chris Gray cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00506" HREF="msg00506.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Prepositions and parsing</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> clawrenc#cup,hp.com</li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00461.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Disk v. 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