<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis... --> <!--X-From-R13: pynjerapNphc.uc.pbz --> <!--X-Date: from babe.globecomm.net [207.51.48.8] by mx4.ibm.net id 864158471.48930-1 Tue May 20 20:01:11 1997 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199705201944.MAA01578#xsvr3,cup.hp.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.LNX.3.96.970518085503.185B-100000#mpc,dyn.ml.org --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00634.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00636.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00649.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00660.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00635">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00635">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00635">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</A></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 20 May 97 12:35:03 -0700</LI> <LI><em>Reply-to</em>: <A HREF="mailto:claw#null,net">claw#null,net</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> In <<A HREF="msg00560.html">Pine.LNX.3.96.970518085503.185B-100000#mpc,dyn.ml.org</A>>, on 05/18/97 at 09:07 AM, Matt Chatterley <root#mpc,dyn.ml.org> said: >It could conceivably be thought of as dialects - for instance, in >Germany, they all speak a basically similar language, but there are >several quite different dialects. To a non-native-speaker, some >dialects may be very different to the generalised form of the >language (s)he learnt. Hmm, no, on second thoughts it's a tad more >extreme than that.. but thats the general gist. Take the current example of Greek. Coverstaional Greek as used today is one language. The Greek used in newspapers, magazines, government, and other officialdom, "High Greek" is a very different if related language. Both languages are known and used by Greeks as a matter of course. cf Heinleinian battle languages ala Dune. cf Mandarin Chinese and Han Chinese. cf The chinese women's secret language (with its own secret writing too) and the spoken Chinese. Comment: Several chinese friends of mine, who grew up in China, report that many villages have their own languages, which are seperated from normal "Chinese" more than just a dialectal difference would account for. They really do function as seperate languages with distinct grammars, words, and aliases. Additionally the language is often split into a female and male form (ie for use by each sex) with the two being more different than similar tho both language are known by both sexes. >Everyone speaks one language with a degree of natural fluency, but >also has a native tongue in which they really communicate.. hmm, >still feels a bit artificial, but it's a workable situation. Perhaps >one can take the standpoint that adventurers are especial, and were >all educated to the point of speaking a common language (although, if >you have such things as barbarians, it gets a touch far-fetched too). >Interesting hurdle. My temptation: Telepathy is language independant. Model: thought transferance relies on mental affinity, not direct "reading" or other transcribing. The awareness of another's thought is on the level of duplicating it in one's own awareness. Speech is language dependant (duh). Don't automate the language used for speech at all. Define a default speech language for each player and then allow him to change that as he learns others. This requires a speaker to manually select a new language for a statement if the recipent does not know the speaker's current default language. Auto-translate inbound speech if the language is known. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#null,net (Contractor) Internet: coder#ibm,net ---------------(*) Internet: clawrenc#cup,hp.com ...Honorary Member Clan McFUD -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00660" HREF="msg00660.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Ling <K.L.Lo-94#student,lut.ac.uk></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00560" HREF="msg00560.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Matt Chatterley <root#mpc,dyn.ml.org></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00634.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00636.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00649.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00660.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00635"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00635"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00667" HREF="msg00667.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Thu 22 May 1997, 00:02 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00683" HREF="msg00683.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 22 May 1997, 05:19 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00644" HREF="msg00644.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 21 May 1997, 08:09 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00649" HREF="msg00649.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#inficad,com">nightfall#inficad,com</a>, Wed 21 May 1997, 12:37 GMT </LI> </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00635" HREF="msg00635.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 21 May 1997, 03:01 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00660" HREF="msg00660.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</A></strong>, Ling <a href="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lut.ac.uk">K.L.Lo-94#student,lut.ac.uk</a>, Wed 21 May 1997, 19:56 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00687" HREF="msg00687.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 22 May 1997, 06:03 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00845" HREF="msg00845.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis... (Chinese stuff)</A></strong>, Ling <a href="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lut.ac.uk">K.L.Lo-94#student,lut.ac.uk</a>, Tue 27 May 1997, 23:44 GMT </LI> </LI> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00814" HREF="msg00814.html">[MUD-Dev] re: RP thesis...</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Tue 27 May 1997, 04:58 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>