<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Pen-and-paper and Computer-based systems --> <!--X-From-R13: nyrkbNovtsbbg.pbz (Oyrk Aera) --> <!--X-Date: from fabius.globecomm.net [207.51.48.6] by in2.ibm.net id 867066652.52052-1 Mon Jun 23 11:50:52 1997 CUT --> <!--X-Message-Id: 33bb5f8c.531246311@neptune --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 3.0.2.32.19970622124022.00b511d0#mail,tenetwork.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Pen-and-paper and Computer-based systems</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:alexo#bigfoot,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg01452.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01454.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg01431.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01428.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#01453">Author</A> | <A HREF="#01453">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#01453">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Pen-and-paper and Computer-based systems</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Pen-and-paper and Computer-based systems</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:alexo#bigfoot,com">alexo#bigfoot,com</A> (Alex Oren)</LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:50:44 GMT</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Jeff wrote: } At 06:17 PM 6/22/97 GMT, J Lambert wrote: } >The Gurps basic system is also a good model of general rules with no } >thematic assumptions. I don't care much for it, but its a good } >model that makes no assumptions outside of basic interactions. It } >has very nice plug-and-play extensions (tm). } > } >I have never given Hero a look. } } Okay, some quick info to give you a jump here 9and for anyoen else } inetrested in these things)... [Aside: Jeff, please try to spellcheck your postings. My imperfect command of English combined with your unorthodox spelling makes reading your messages a hard and confusing experience.] } GUROPS and Hero atytempt teh same thing from opposite sides. [An excellent explanation snipped] There are lots of pen-and-paper RPG systems out there. Some are more adaptable to Computer-based systems then others. } NOTE: For those doing commercial projects-- Steve Peterson at hero games is } hoping to make soem money off of licensing Fuzion as a rules base for } games, so hes not going to be real happy if you use his system without } askign him (even though game rules are not really protectable under } copyrigth law). If somebody wants to take a look at free (more or less) systems, try <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Alley/1557/freerpgs.htm">http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Alley/1557/freerpgs.htm</A> At the moment, I don't have the free time <sigh> to evaluate the systems, but I'd be very happy if somebody does... } >> I'd say you played pen and paper with very uninventive people. I defy you } >> to describe to me something on a MUD I could not run as an adventure just } >> about ANY FRP system I chose. } > } > I find these last statements to be presumptuous. I've been on the list } } Well thats fair. I found YOUR hand waving dismissal of Pen and Paper RPGs } as presumptous. We sow what we reap ,as a rule. Noise Alert! (Also known as "Captain, we have a signal degradation!") Have fun, Alex. </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="01431" HREF="msg01431.html">Re:</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Jeff Kesselman <jeffk#tenetwork,com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01452.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Room-based vs. coordinate-based</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01454.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Alright... 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