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<H1>Re: [MUD-Dev]  Room-based vs. coordinate-based</H1>
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<LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</A></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 13 Jun 97 12:21:20 -0700</LI>
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In &lt;<A HREF="msg01321.html">01IK0ROHGSBM90PQJB#nova,wright.edu</A>&gt;, on 06/13/97 
   at 09:29 AM, S001GMU#nova,wright.edu said:

&gt;From: clawrenc#cup,hp.com

&gt;&gt;Change the scenario to:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;  Shoehorn is in a room,  
&gt;&gt;  There are two other players A and B in the room as well.
&gt;&gt;  A is near shoehorn.
&gt;&gt;  B is some distance away.
&gt;&gt;  There are also 15 tiny or invisible objects in the room 
&gt;&gt;    near shoehorn (lint ball, a dropped cherry stone, etc).  
&gt;&gt;  The extra objects create the following neighborhoods:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;    #1{Shoehorn,...A}
&gt;&gt;    #2{A,...B}  
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;  Shoehorn pulls a rabbit out of his hat.
&gt;&gt;  The rabbit is too distant to be a member of #2.
&gt;&gt;  #1 is too full to add the rabbit, resulting in:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;    #1{Shoehorn,...A}
&gt;&gt;    #2{A,...B}  
&gt;&gt;    #3{Shoehorn, rabbit}
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;All the objects tiny, invisible, A, B, etc should see Shoehorn pull
&gt;&gt;out the rabbit.  As far as A &amp; B are concerned, it is the only thing
&gt;&gt;happening in the room, and as such is not drowned in detail (or 50M
&gt;&gt;rabbits).

&gt;I'd be tempted to add a scale to each neighborhood.  The scale would 
&gt;be a range of object sizes allowable within that neighborhood. 
&gt;anything too big or two small gets shuffled into a neighborhood of
&gt;the appropriate scale, creating a new one if none exists.  
&gt;Neighborhoods of differing scale can overlap eachother with no real
&gt;problems.

The problem is that scale does not denote suitability for receiving a
message.  Should the player currently inhabiting the body of a flea
not receive the mesage while the troll he's biting will receive the
message?

I don't see that scale offers a value here.

&gt;Are there any glaring problems with that?  I've had some difficulty 
&gt;following exactly what you guys are talking about, but that probably
&gt;stems from not really reading the first couple of messages too
&gt;thuroughly. Will have ot go back and re-read those.  ;)

Marian asked a similar question.  I'll attempt to recap later today or
tomorrow.

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<LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev]  Name/language generation</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01379" HREF="msg01379.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Name/language generation</A></strong>, 
Martin Keegan <a href="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com">martin#cam,sri.com</a>, Fri 20 Jun 1997, 14:32 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01331" HREF="msg01331.html">Persistancy</A></strong>, 
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Tue 17 Jun 1997, 03:53 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="01324" HREF="msg01324.html">Testing.</A></strong>, 
coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Mon 16 Jun 1997, 04:58 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="01321" HREF="msg01321.html">Room-based vs. coordinate-based</A></strong>, 
S001GMU <a href="mailto:S001GMU#nova,wright.edu">S001GMU#nova,wright.edu</a>, Fri 13 Jun 1997, 21:42 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01323" HREF="msg01323.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Room-based vs. coordinate-based</A></strong>, 
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Sat 14 Jun 1997, 02:47 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01325" HREF="msg01325.html">Room-based vs. coordinate-based</A></strong>, 
S001GMU <a href="mailto:S001GMU#nova,wright.edu">S001GMU#nova,wright.edu</a>, Mon 16 Jun 1997, 05:29 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01335" HREF="msg01335.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Room-based vs. coordinate-based</A></strong>, 
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 18 Jun 1997, 07:16 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01305" HREF="msg01305.html">List message losses</A></strong>, 
coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Thu 12 Jun 1997, 12:21 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="01303" HREF="msg01303.html">Digest support</A></strong>, 
coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Thu 12 Jun 1997, 12:15 GMT
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