<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Rumours --> <!--X-From-R13: [nevna Uevssvgu <telcubaNvnrui.ay> --> <!--X-Date: from babe.globecomm.net [207.51.48.8] by in12.ibm.net id 867174676.38106-1 Tue Jun 24 17:51:16 1997 CUT --> <!--X-Message-Id: Marcel-1.09-0624182544-0b0Ky&5#Gryphon,knoware.nl --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 33AEB3A7.2781E494#iname,com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Rumours</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg01474.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01476.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg01473.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01488.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#01475">Author</A> | <A HREF="#01475">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#01475">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Rumours</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Rumours</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Marian Griffith <<A HREF="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 19:25:44 +0100 (BST)</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Mon 23 Jun, Shawn Halpenny wrote: > Alex Oren wrote: > > Apart from rumors and "wanted" lists there are other possibilities: [snipped, read the original post :] > # l > You see Bubba and Boffo on the side of the street. > A shopkeeper is sweeping his front steps. > # 'I saw Humperdink kill two dragons and an elderly lady! > You say it. > Bubba says 'No kidding!?' > Boffo says 'The murderous rogue! I knew she was no good...' > The shopkeeper looks aghast in your direction and scurries inside. > # snicker > You snicker to yourself. > # 'Oh, did I mention that my new china and flatware finally arrived? > etc. > Now the shopkeeper heard the Humperdink and elderly lady bit and > chalks that up as a rumor which he can pass on to as many people as > he wants to (a rumor juiciness factor comes to mind). However, the > bit about the china and flatware would make a pretty shoddy rumor, > IMO, and the intent is to have NPC passers-by disregard things like > that. I cannot, however, think of how an NPC would distinguish the > two. I don't think it's that hard. Think about what makes the best gossip, and you find part of your answer. If it is about other people, espe- about famous people, it makes good gossip. If it is about crime or love it also makes good gossip. So all you have to do is see if there is enough words matching names and synonymous words for death, murder crime or love (and add a few other juicy subjects) and you get a way to rank the message for gossip value. Especially if the player who is targetted by the gossip either has a similar or a completely dissimi- lar reputation. Everybody loves to hear about notorious people, and everybody loves to hear that that perfect person is not so perfect. Of course, in the later case the believability of the rumour must be fairly low (you like to hear it but you don't easily belief it). This thing gets to be really fun if you manage to make the inhabitants of the town repeat the message with some embellishments, making the ru- mour sound grander. I.e. replace 'slapped' with 'hit', and that with 'smashed' until you eventually end up with 'murdered' <gr>. You pro- bably need to make the victim of aggressive actions more anonymous if you want this to work, but for the love category there's no need for that. A relation between two famous people is just as interesting as a relation of one famous person with somebody unknown. (e.g. the ru- mours about Hugh Grant after he was caught with a prostitute and the persistent rumours about Michael Jackson). To make the whole thing work you probably need to have rumours fade with time, or if they go round they won't get passed on again, unless they are really, really, juicy. Further should each inhabitant of the city have a choice of not further passing on the rumour (i.e. not be- lieving the rumour) but this should be in relation to the juiciness of the rumour and it's believability. If you want to do it right you might have gossips who more or less believe and pass on anything they are told and sceptics who do not readily believe gossips. And people have less chance of believing a gossip if they know of something even more interesting. Marian -- Yes - at last - You. I Choose you. Out of all the world, out of all the seeking, I have found you, young sister of my heart! You are mine and I am yours - and never again will there be loneliness ... Rolan Choosing Talia, Arrows of the Queen, by Mercedes Lackey </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="01488" HREF="msg01488.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Rumours</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Adam Wiggins <nightfall#user2,inficad.com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="01464" HREF="msg01464.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Alright... 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IF your gonan do DESIESE...</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="01460" HREF="msg01460.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Alright... IF your gonan do DESIESE...</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Tue 24 Jun 1997, 00:08 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01464" HREF="msg01464.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Alright... IF your gonan do DESIESE...</A></strong>, Shawn Halpenny <a href="mailto:malachai#iname,com">malachai#iname,com</a>, Tue 24 Jun 1997, 00:34 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01466" HREF="msg01466.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Alright... IF your gonan do DESIESE...</A></strong>, Nathan Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Tue 24 Jun 1997, 04:14 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01473" HREF="msg01473.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Alright... IF your gonan do DESIESE...</A></strong>, Alex Oren <a href="mailto:alexo#bigfoot,com">alexo#bigfoot,com</a>, Tue 24 Jun 1997, 14:06 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01475" HREF="msg01475.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Rumours</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Wed 25 Jun 1997, 00:51 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01488" HREF="msg01488.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Rumours</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user2,inficad.com">nightfall#user2,inficad.com</a>, Wed 25 Jun 1997, 12:22 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01494" HREF="msg01494.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Rumours</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Thu 26 Jun 1997, 00:15 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01534" HREF="msg01534.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Rumours</A></strong>, Shawn Halpenny <a href="mailto:malachai#iname,com">malachai#iname,com</a>, Thu 26 Jun 1997, 21:00 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01578" HREF="msg01578.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Rumours</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Sun 29 Jun 1997, 04:23 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>