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<LI><em>From</em>: Matt Chatterley &lt;<A HREF="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</A>&gt;</LI>
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On Wed, 28 May 1997, Jeff Kesselman wrote:

&gt; At 11:00 PM 5/27/97 PST8PDT, you wrote:
			       ^^^
Could you see your way to please adjusting your mailer to accredit by
name, or add some sort of nametag to quotes by hand, please? It's really
confusing &lt;g&gt;

&gt; &gt;  However, I'm curious -
&gt; &gt;has anyone come up with a way to make puzzles be randomly solvable 
&gt; 
&gt; The Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade graphic adventure had sonmething
&gt; liek this... it was a logic game with 3 6 side objects of which coudl
&gt; rotate pairs at a time. it would randomly set the star tstate and you had
&gt; to get it to a known end state.

I remember that game - it was quite clever, really, well, in theory.
 
&gt; The problem with this is that, while the exact moves aren't wroite
&gt; learnable, there ARE a set of techniquers, kind of liek a rubrik's cube
&gt; 9another good example).  Once you knwo the etchniques it is quickly
&gt; solveable from ANY position... so its only a "random puzzle" ina very
&gt; primative sense.  

Right. It's only random in the sense that it randomizes itself, so noone
could record the exact moves they used to solve it, and repeat them to
solve it again - once you know how to go about solving it, it's no longer
a problem.
 
&gt; Ultimately anything that takes logic, once you figure otu the logic of the
&gt; puzzle, that 90% of it.

*nod*

Regards,
	-Matt Chatterley
	<A  HREF="http://user.itl.net/~neddy/index.html">http://user.itl.net/~neddy/index.html</A>
"Fishing is complete and utter madness."  -Spike Milligan


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<LI><strong><A NAME="00902" HREF="msg00902.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Alright... IF your gonan do DESIESE...</A></strong>, 
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Thu 29 May 1997, 02:19 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00997" HREF="msg00997.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Alright... IF your gonan do DESIESE...</A></strong>, 
Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Thu 01 Jan 1970, 20:39 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00969" HREF="msg00969.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Alright... IF your gonan do DESIESE...</A></strong>, 
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Sat 31 May 1997, 06:13 GMT
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Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Thu 29 May 1997, 02:25 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01008" HREF="msg01008.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Alright... IF your gonan do DESIESE...</A></strong>, 
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Sun 01 Jun 1997, 17:47 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01024" HREF="msg01024.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Alright... IF your gonan do DESIESE...</A></strong>, 
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Mon 02 Jun 1997, 03:36 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01102" HREF="msg01102.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Alright... IF your gonan do DESIESE...</A></strong>, 
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 04 Jun 1997, 01:13 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01025" HREF="msg01025.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Alright... IF your gonan do DESIESE...</A></strong>, 
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Mon 02 Jun 1997, 03:53 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01027" HREF="msg01027.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Alright... IF your gonan do DESIESE...</A></strong>, 
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Sat 03 Jan 1970, 07:21 GMT
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