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<LI><em>From</em>: Jeff Kesselman &lt;<A HREF="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</A>&gt;</LI>
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At 07:21 PM 6/3/97 PST8PDT, Jc lawrence wrote:
&gt;In &lt;<A HREF="msg01019.html">3.0.32.19970601123731.00683f00#mail,tenetwork.com</A>&gt;, on 06/01/97 
&gt;   at 12:46 PM, Jeff Kesselman &lt;jeffk#tenetwork,com&gt; said:
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&gt;&gt;Thus, my opinons are as follows:
&gt;&gt;(1) Pkilling just shouldn't be allowed.
&gt;&gt;(2) PvP while potentailly a fine game MUST be limited to games where
&gt;&gt;that is the point and kept limited in a Roleplay envrionment.
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&gt;&gt;Okay, NOW argue with me now that you knwo my real position :)
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&gt;If you are attempting an immersive RP environment (and lots of other
&gt;caveats), then I suspect I'd agree with you.  In a non-immersive RP
&gt;game, then no, I don't agree.  I've seen far too many MUDs with free
&gt;or fairly free PK that did not descend into fixed solutions or
&gt;simplistic chest beating.

Fair enough.  I don't see either "fixed solutions" or simplsitic chest
beating to be necessary components of a PvP based game.  Neither however
does their lack suggest a Roleplay game by my definitions.  I suspect what
I call Roleplay, as per the AD&amp;D definition i gave earlier, is what you
call "immersive roleplay".  No probs or disagreements now that our
definitions are clearer.

JK


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<LI><strong><A NAME="01283" HREF="msg01283.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>, 
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user1,inficad.com">nightfall#user1,inficad.com</a>, Wed 11 Jun 1997, 08:05 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01125" HREF="msg01125.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>, 
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Wed 04 Jun 1997, 09:47 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01126" HREF="msg01126.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>, 
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Wed 04 Jun 1997, 10:20 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01156" HREF="msg01156.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>, 
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 05 Jun 1997, 04:30 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01130" HREF="msg01130.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>, 
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Wed 04 Jun 1997, 11:01 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01135" HREF="msg01135.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>, 
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Wed 04 Jun 1997, 11:22 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01160" HREF="msg01160.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>, 
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Tue 06 Jan 1970, 09:39 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01140" HREF="msg01140.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>, 
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Wed 04 Jun 1997, 11:52 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01142" HREF="msg01142.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>, 
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Wed 04 Jun 1997, 12:28 GMT
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