<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD --> <!--X-From-R13: pnyvonaNqnexybpx.pbz (Qnyvona Fverfvnf Rnexybpx) --> <!--X-Date: from scipio.globecomm.net [207.51.48.12] by in12.ibm.net id 867023094.34902-1 Sun Jun 22 23:44:54 1997 CUT --> <!--X-Message-Id: 33b1b759.8307554#relay,mnsinc.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 9706221841.85w9@ami-cg.GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg01437.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01439.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg01425.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01441.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#01438">Author</A> | <A HREF="#01438">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#01438">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</A> (Caliban Tiresias Darklock)</LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 23:46:36 GMT</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Sun, 22 Jun 1997 11:14:48 PST8PDT, cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA (Chris Gray) wrote: >[Caliban:] > >:GUI interfaces are not generally a good idea for a text-based MUD. >:There's too much text entry required, and the mouse/keyboard switching >:is ultimately a pain and a slowdown. If a particular command in the MUD >:building interface is easily automated by a button, it is also either >:easy to type or should be simplified in the MUD design. > >I disagree. Some people are not very good at all with keyboards - watching >them try is very painful. Providing them with a GUI of some sort, even >for things that are "easy to type", will enable them to enjoy building, >thus making them much more likely to actually do it once you leave the room. I don't dispute that a GUI has its advantages, but as I mentioned in another post, there are times when all three types of input -- mouse driven GUI, keyboard driven GUI, and command line -- have their advantages and disadvantages. I just think that there needs to be care taken to avoid forcing people to use an inappropriate method of design just because a particular form of input was neglected in one area or another. >: setexits s=A long tunnel/5321|This long tunnel leads off >: into the darkness.| n=A dimly lit room/4231|The dimly >: lit room appears to be uninhabited.| > >Blech! Foo! Barf! This sort of command should not be possible. Not only >is it difficult to type, it is difficult to read and verify. I am a touch >typist, but I can't imagine typing that is easier than clicking some >buttons with a mouse. Exactly -- the command above sucks harder than anything I have ever had the misfortune to see anywhere. That's the point. A lot of people, given the realisation that they can cram something else into a command's syntax, think they should. Once they create some hideous monstrosity that nobody really understands, they turn around and go 'Well, I sure don't need those little do-nothing commands I *used* to use!' and disable them... forcing everyone to use the horrendous misfeature they concocted while on God only knows what drug at three in the morning. -+[caliban#darklock,com]+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- I am here to grind your eyes harder into the miasmic bile of life; to show you the truth and the beauty in the whisper of steel on silk and the crimson scent of blood as it rises to meet the caress of a blade. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+[<A HREF="http://www.darklock.com/]+-">http://www.darklock.com/]+-</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="01425" HREF="msg01425.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA (Chris Gray)</LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01437.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01439.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Supporting RP+PG</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01425.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01441.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#01438"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#01438"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="01421" HREF="msg01421.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sun 22 Jun 1997, 17:58 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01604" HREF="msg01604.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Tue 01 Jul 1997, 02:29 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01606" HREF="msg01606.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Tue 01 Jul 1997, 02:48 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01425" HREF="msg01425.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Mon 23 Jun 1997, 01:02 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01438" HREF="msg01438.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Mon 23 Jun 1997, 06:44 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01441" HREF="msg01441.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Mon 23 Jun 1997, 10:31 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01467" HREF="msg01467.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Tue 24 Jun 1997, 08:28 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01514" HREF="msg01514.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 26 Jun 1997, 11:10 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01527" HREF="msg01527.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Thu 26 Jun 1997, 15:21 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>