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<LI><em>From</em>: Jeff Kesselman <<A HREF="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</A>></LI>
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At 09:42 AM 6/1/97 PST8PDT, you wrote:
>On Wed 28 May, Jeff Kesselman wrote:
>> At 11:25 PM 5/27/97 PST8PDT, you wrote:
>> >[Chris L:]
>
>> >> >RP). Worst of all, I feel that death not being permenant basically
>> >> >cheapens the entire experience. Death is now an annoyance, not
>> >> >something to be feared.
>
>> When judging a pen and paper game, the best judges berak danger down into
>> two things... eprceievd danger and real danger...
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>thank you for pointing this out. I've never thought about this entire
>subject. Would you mind if I eventually write something about this on
>the pages for the overlord projekt? I think that more awareness about
>this difference can benefit many games.
Feel free. :) The particvualr formulation is mien but the concept is well
known, if nto always conciously thought of. Nothing propriaary here :)
>
>> Raal danger should be rellatively small the vast majority of the time... if
>> a reasonable player plays reasonably well they shoudl coem out okaty...
>> at the same time Perceieved Danger MUST peak relatively high from time to
>> time. Without the perception of real and present danger there can be no
>> such thing as real heroics... and you cannot reach the tension level
>> necessary for a truely enjoyable experience.
>
>> Now HOW you do thsi in an AUTOMATED session in such a way taht the player
>> never catches wise is an interestign and problematic question...
>
>Maybe you can have the perceived danger and the real danger coincide more
>or less, but give the players plenty of opportunity to back out gracefully
>if they belief themselves in something over their head.
<dragon example deleted>
Interesting idea. Seirra's The Realm does soemthing like this.,
Unfortunately its too EASY to escape any danger you fidn yo ucan't happen.
The game ahs a real problem that perceieved danger is too low...
Now, IF when you encounter the Dragon there is osme % chance it MIGHT jump
you... that might raise tension without TOO much actual danger...
I'll have to think more on this :)
JK
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01023" HREF="msg01023.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Alright... IF your gonan do DESIESE...</A></strong>,
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Mon 02 Jun 1997, 03:33 GMT
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Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Tue 17 Jun 1997, 04:34 GMT
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