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<LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</A> (Caliban Tiresias Darklock)</LI>
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On Sat, 24 May 1997 16:07:36 PST8PDT, silovic#srce,hr (Miroslav Silovic)
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&gt;&gt; Typicly the reason C++ code ends up slower is due to mis-coding of
&gt;&gt; constructors by peopel who do NOT understand whats going on underneath.
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&gt;This is my main objection about C++: one should be able to use a language
&gt;after reading the *specification*, not the bloody compiler source! :P :P :P

My main objection to it is the same problem I have with the Mac. You are
either a newbie, or a wizard. There is no in between. C++ is so tightly
interwoven, you have to understand ALL of it INTIMATELY before you can
expect to have any confidence that you're doing things properly. If you
don't have a deep understanding of the internals, it's almost impossible
to explain WHY things have to be done a certain way.

However, the vast majority of applications today is so outstripped by
the power of the computer, C++ is an acceptable tradeoff. We don't
normally worry overmuch about tightening inner loops, because the
system's plenty fast even if it's a little inefficient. There are
applications that need to be written, however, which will require either
that you are God-on-a-stick with C++, or that you use a more easily
optimised language that runs closer to the bare metal. Like C.

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<LI><strong><A NAME="00729" HREF="msg00729.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages</A></strong>, 
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sat 24 May 1997, 12:06 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00767" HREF="msg00767.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages</A></strong>, 
Nathan Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Sun 25 May 1997, 14:29 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00732" HREF="msg00732.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages</A></strong>, 
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Sat 24 May 1997, 14:10 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00747" HREF="msg00747.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages</A></strong>, 
Miroslav Silovic <a href="mailto:silovic#srce,hr">silovic#srce,hr</a>, Sun 25 May 1997, 05:59 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00749" HREF="msg00749.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages</A></strong>, 
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Sun 25 May 1997, 06:28 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00751" HREF="msg00751.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages</A></strong>, 
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Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Sun 25 May 1997, 08:02 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00738" HREF="msg00738.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages</A></strong>, 
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