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<LI><em>From</em>: "Jon A. Lambert" <<A HREF="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</A>></LI>
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> From: Todd Lair <tlair#mailzone,com>
> [On 05/11/97 Jamie Norrish <jamie#sans,vuw.ac.nz> said]
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> >> Risk is crucial for a good game because you can't really have
> >> players getting reward for typing in ten commands correctly.
>
> >This is something that has always boggled me when people start trying to
> >convert their combat oriented games to a more "role-playing" focused one.
> >Why is there still this concern about levels, and advancement, and so
> >forth? If there are any rewards for
> >role-playing/not killing things, they should only indirectly be related
> >to any system mechanics. Becoming the recognised leader of a group
> >shouldn't have any mechanics effects *whatsoever* - it's just that other
> >characters recognise her as a leader and do what she says.
>
> >It is folly, in my view, to try and keep the idea of advancement based on
> >mechanical risk when introducing non-mechanical tasks. Let those who
> >fight get better at fighting, and those who heal better at healing, and
> >leave it at that.
>
> The only thing I'm using level for is a measure of time between skill
> betterment. That is it. I need some means to measure the amount of time
> a player uses his skills out in the field which indicates when he is ready
> for further training. Out of personal preference, I really don't want to
> simply increase skills from their use. I think it's a bit unrealistic.
>
I agree whole heartedly with the concept of levels as a measurement tool
even in a fully role-playing environment. I use levels in the same way you
seem to indicate. I also use experience points as the measuring tool between
levels. Levels may indicate little or nothing about combat effectiveness.
A 1st level character has the ability to kill a 100th level character in one blow.
Levels are simply the point in at which further character development takes
place. It is also certainly possible that a character skills and statistics can
decrease when a level is reached due to old age or other deterioration of
abilities.
JL
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00399" HREF="msg00399.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Administrative notes</A></strong>,
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user1,inficad.com">nightfall#user1,inficad.com</a>, Mon 12 May 1997, 20:53 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00610" HREF="msg00610.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Administrative notes</A></strong>,
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Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Tue 13 May 1997, 11:10 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00427" HREF="msg00427.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Administrative notes</A></strong>,
Miroslav Silovic <a href="mailto:silovic#srce,hr">silovic#srce,hr</a>, Tue 13 May 1997, 15:41 GMT
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Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Tue 13 May 1997, 11:39 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00485" HREF="msg00485.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Administrative notes</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Fri 16 May 1997, 01:07 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00439" HREF="msg00439.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Administrative notes</A></strong>,
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Wed 14 May 1997, 02:39 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00449" HREF="msg00449.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Administrative notes</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Wed 14 May 1997, 09:49 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00463" HREF="msg00463.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Administrative notes</A></strong>,
Miroslav Silovic <a href="mailto:silovic#srce,hr">silovic#srce,hr</a>, Wed 14 May 1997, 22:43 GMT
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