<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd) --> <!--X-From-R13: Xrss Yrffryzna <wrssxNgrargjbex.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: from stimpy.globecomm.net [207.51.48.4] by in3.ibm.net id 865745916.153184-1 Sun Jun 8 04:58:36 1997 CUT --> <!--X-Message-Id: 3.0.32.19970607220056.009f9ce8#mail,tenetwork.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg01255.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01257.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg01269.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01329.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#01256">Author</A> | <A HREF="#01256">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#01256">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Jeff Kesselman <<A HREF="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sat, 07 Jun 1997 22:00:57 -0700</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> At 07:28 PM 6/7/97 PST8PDT, Caliban wrote: >On Fri, 6 Jun 1997 19:42:50 PST8PDT, Martin Keegan <martin#cam,sri.com> >wrote: > >>I've had a look at many mud languages, and didn't like any. 'Mud languages' >>sums these up very well. Muds, as far as I'm concerned, are "virtual worlds", >>and the languages used to describe them tend to be modelled on general >>programming languages rather than reflecting virtual worlds in their design. > >This is something I've been trying to say for a while, but I keep being >told that all I'm doing is waging a codebase war. > >Basically, the internal command parser and programming language of a MUD >tends to assume a lot of familiarity with the internal workings of the >MUD server. There are exceptions, but those exceptions in general tend Well, Cold doesn't HAVE a built in pareser, you roll your own out of very useful highlevel net communciation and text-mathcing commands... BUt Cold certainly isn't designed for a virtual world, its rather more a hihgly obnject oriented generic server building toolkit with strong string and list handling facilities. If I ever get back to Kelvin its going to be very closely related because this is what I peresonally want-- a generic environment I ccan do almos tanything with. > </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01255.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Alright... IF your gonan do DESIESE...</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01257.html">Text output [was "short" Introductory Message (fwd)]</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01269.html">Re: (fwd) RESEARCH: Why do you admin a Mud?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01329.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#01256"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#01256"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>RE: [MUD-Dev] Genuinely brief intro</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="01293" HREF="msg01293.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Genuinely brief intro</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Thu 12 Jun 1997, 00:03 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01270" HREF="msg01270.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] web archive for MUD Design List ?</A></strong>, Dmitri Kondratiev <a href="mailto:dima#paragraph,com">dima#paragraph,com</a>, Tue 10 Jun 1997, 04:41 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01275" HREF="msg01275.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] web archive for MUD Design List ?</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Tue 10 Jun 1997, 20:56 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01269" HREF="msg01269.html">Re: (fwd) RESEARCH: Why do you admin a Mud?</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Tue 10 Jun 1997, 04:24 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="01256" HREF="msg01256.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Sun 08 Jun 1997, 11:58 GMT <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="01329" HREF="msg01329.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</A></strong>, Martin Keegan <a href="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com">martin#cam,sri.com</a>, Tue 10 Jun 1997, 16:35 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01367" HREF="msg01367.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Fri 20 Jun 1997, 06:10 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01380" HREF="msg01380.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</A></strong>, Martin Keegan <a href="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com">martin#cam,sri.com</a>, Fri 20 Jun 1997, 15:34 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01501" HREF="msg01501.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 26 Jun 1997, 02:56 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>