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<LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</A></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 17 Jun 97 17:10:54 -0700</LI>
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In <<A HREF="msg01325.html">01IK40LS7M3690PX67#nova,wright.edu</A>>, on 06/15/97
at 03:31 PM, S001GMU#nova,wright.edu said:
>From: clawrenc#cup,hp.com
>>In <<A HREF="msg01321.html">01IK0ROHGSBM90PQJB#nova,wright.edu</A>>, on 06/13/97
>> at 09:29 AM, S001GMU#nova,wright.edu said:
[Shoehorn, 2 people and 15 tiny objects.... ]
>>>I'd be tempted to add a scale to each neighborhood. The scale would
>>>be a range of object sizes allowable within that neighborhood.
>>>anything too big or two small gets shuffled into a neighborhood of
>>>the appropriate scale, creating a new one if none exists.
>>>Neighborhoods of differing scale can overlap eachother with no real
>>>problems.
>>
>>The problem is that scale does not denote suitability for receiving a
>>message. Should the player currently inhabiting the body of a flea
>>not receive the mesage while the troll he's biting will receive the
>>message?
>A tiny creature has a vastly different range of vision from a giant
>creature (in general... yes I know there are exceptions on both
>sides). A flea on the rabbit that got pulled out of the hat may only
>know that suddenly it is light out rather than dark, and a dragon in
>the next room may not even notice that those puny mortals are doing
>much of anything. What you see is entirely a matter of scale.
The exceptions that you reference are what define this as an invalid
model. We cannot safely define the suitability of an event for an
object as a function of the object's size. What's worse, we can't
even define the suitability as a function of size, and then add in a
special-case function to track the exceptions -- it just gets too
nasty.
>>I don't see that scale offers a value here.
>I disagree. :)
Now this not to say that neighborhoods should not segregate their
members on the basis of some criteria so that two neighborhoods which
occupy a single coordinate range may each contain objects the other
does not. *That* I think is a profitable avenue to explore. Its
using scale as the criteria that I don't see as workable.
>>>Are there any glaring problems with that? I've had some difficulty
>>>following exactly what you guys are talking about, but that probably
>>>stems from not really reading the first couple of messages too
>>>thuroughly. Will have ot go back and re-read those. ;)
>>
>>Marian asked a similar question. I'll attempt to recap later today or
>>tomorrow.
>Thanks. :)
Its now obviously later than that tomorrow. I'm still trying to
scrape time together for a summary. I hope by tomorrow.
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01324" HREF="msg01324.html">Testing.</A></strong>,
coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Mon 16 Jun 1997, 04:58 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="01321" HREF="msg01321.html">Room-based vs. coordinate-based</A></strong>,
S001GMU <a href="mailto:S001GMU#nova,wright.edu">S001GMU#nova,wright.edu</a>, Fri 13 Jun 1997, 21:42 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01323" HREF="msg01323.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Room-based vs. coordinate-based</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Sat 14 Jun 1997, 02:47 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01325" HREF="msg01325.html">Room-based vs. coordinate-based</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01335" HREF="msg01335.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Room-based vs. coordinate-based</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 18 Jun 1997, 07:16 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01305" HREF="msg01305.html">List message losses</A></strong>,
coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Thu 12 Jun 1997, 12:21 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="01303" HREF="msg01303.html">Digest support</A></strong>,
coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Thu 12 Jun 1997, 12:15 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="01281" HREF="msg01281.html">Re: mention from Mud-Dev</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 11 Jun 1997, 00:45 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="01278" HREF="msg01278.html">Commercial interests and rules</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Tue 10 Jun 1997, 22:26 GMT
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