<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Multi-threaded mudding (was a flamefest) --> <!--X-From-R13: Xrss Yrffryzna <wrssxNgrargjbex.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: from tacitus.globecomm.net [207.51.48.7] by mx5.ibm.net id 862629672.36310-1 Sat May 3 03:21:12 1997 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 3.0.32.19970502203318.00b46f38#mail,tenetwork.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Multi-threaded mudding (was a flamefest)</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00311.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00313.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00311.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00313.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00312">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00312">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00312">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Multi-threaded mudding (was a flamefest)</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Multi-threaded mudding (was a flamefest)</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Jeff Kesselman <<A HREF="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 02 May 1997 20:33:21 -0700</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> At 08:08 PM 5/2/97 PST8PDT, you wrote: > >On 02/05/97 at 05:58 PM, Jeff Kesselman <jeffk#tenetwork,com> said: >At >04:38 PM 5/2/97 PST8PDT, coder#null,net wrote: > >>>While technically accurate, its really a questionable point. ColdX's >>>definition of envets are tightly limited to connection and I/O state >>>changes. It actually has no real concept of an internally generated >>>event, or even an event model as regards internal state changes for >>>the DB. It's only events center on what happens on its network ports. >... >>I think to make your poitn vaild you need to explain what the differnece >>between an "internal event" and a message pass is, in your model. I see >>no practical difference. In my model and in the term event driven as I >>understand it to be commonly used, the only difference is that the call >>coems from the OS... which is to say it happens inresponse to IO (or the >>clock, which is also a form of IO really.) > >A running MUD has the unusual property of being self-animating. Ignoring >the questions of swapping out inactive areas etc, even if no users ever >log in, the mobiles will continue to wander their paths, night and day >will progess thru the MUD world, weather will change, seasons will pass. >The game world will animate itself. > >I model these animations as events. A mobile moves his next step by >having a closing event log a new event to step him forward some time in >the future. Pardon me, but it soudns like syntactic sugar on top of a timer event. I just don't see it as beign paradigmaticly really all that different from animating off of a generic call back timer. I have sucha thing in my Cold core runnign off the heartbeat,as I suspect virtually every Cold core does. Thanks for giving me the reference, though. JK </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00318" HREF="msg00318.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Multi-threaded mudding (was a flamefest)</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> silovic#srce,hr (Miroslav Silovic)</li></ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00316" HREF="msg00316.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Multi-threaded mudding (was a flamefest)</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> coder#ibm,net</li></ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00313" HREF="msg00313.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Multi-threaded mudding (was a flamefest)</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> coder#ibm,net</li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00311.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Multi-threaded mudding (was a flamefest)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00313.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Multi-threaded mudding (was a flamefest)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00311.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Multi-threaded mudding (was a flamefest)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00313.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Multi-threaded mudding (was a flamefest)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00312"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00312"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Multi-threaded mudding (was a flamefest)</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00309" HREF="msg00309.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Multi-threaded mudding (was a flamefest)</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Sat 03 May 1997, 01:24 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00306" HREF="msg00306.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Multi-threaded mudding (was a flamefest)</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Fri 02 May 1997, 12:42 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00310" HREF="msg00310.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Multi-threaded mudding (was a flamefest)</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Sat 03 May 1997, 07:46 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00311" HREF="msg00311.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Multi-threaded mudding (was a flamefest)</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Sat 03 May 1997, 08:36 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00312" HREF="msg00312.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Multi-threaded mudding (was a flamefest)</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Sat 03 May 1997, 10:21 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00313" HREF="msg00313.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Multi-threaded mudding (was a flamefest)</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Sat 03 May 1997, 11:38 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00316" HREF="msg00316.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Multi-threaded mudding (was a flamefest)</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Sat 03 May 1997, 12:32 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00318" HREF="msg00318.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Multi-threaded mudding (was a flamefest)</A></strong>, Miroslav Silovic <a href="mailto:silovic#srce,hr">silovic#srce,hr</a>, Sat 03 May 1997, 14:21 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00323" HREF="msg00323.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Multi-threaded mudding (was a flamefest)</A></strong>, Ling <a href="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lut.ac.uk">K.L.Lo-94#student,lut.ac.uk</a>, Mon 05 May 1997, 18:02 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>