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<LI><em>From</em>: Jeff Kesselman &lt;<A HREF="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</A>&gt;</LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Sun, 18 May 1997 13:29:26 -0700</LI>
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At 01:11 PM 5/17/97 PST8PDT, you wrote:
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&gt;On 17/05/97 at 11:23 AM, "Jon A. Lambert" &lt;jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com&gt; said:
&gt;&gt;&gt; From: coder#ibm,net
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Side notes:  This may be changing.  There are two promises in the wind for
&gt;&gt;&gt; this area:  Cable modems: which would mean this machine would be online
&gt;&gt;&gt; 24hrs a day and I'd finally be able to offer a real FTP/Web site et al

Um. not unless it was a VERY slow one.

Virtually all cable modems are asymetric, whiel they provide (theoreticl;y)
great downstream bandwidth to the user, they provide not much mroe thena
standard modem back upstream. (Soem even USE a seperate telephone loine and
modem, depending on whether the cable comapny is willign to install the
back-channel equiptment on their net or not.)

In addition taht massive down-channel capabiltiy that keeps gettign quoted
is SHARED capability for everyoen in your neighborhood.. its much like many
machines on a 10mb etehernet cable. Sure the cabel is 10mb/sec, but due to
packet collision how much fo that YOU get is dependnant on whoever else is
on the cable and how active they are.

Cable mdoems are another one of those misunderstood technologies that
everyone is playing wishful-thinking on...

JK



&gt;&gt;&gt; (and get rid of bloody sendmail).  ISDN: which would mean I'd set a cron
&gt;&gt;&gt; job to have the machine dial-up at 20:00hrs sharp and hang up at 05:00hrs
&gt;&gt;&gt; sharp (toll free ISDN during that period for this area).
&gt;
&gt;&gt;It would be interesting if someone had a mud server/talker for mud
&gt;&gt;designers to log into.  Maybe with mail support, boards,  cut n paste,
&gt;&gt;etc.  
&gt;
&gt;The problem with Talkers etc for this type of forum is that thay have no
&gt;real sense of history or context -- finding something that was said back
&gt;when and replying to it much later with a decent frame of reference is
&gt;damned near impossible.  They're are also a bitch to log in a form which
&gt;can be decently read/parsed, intelligently clipped from.  
&gt;
&gt;&gt;Of course email tends to be more thought out and leisurely.
&gt;
&gt;Yup.  It also provides a paper trail so that any thread can be traced back
&gt;all the way to its roots and forward to its (possibly many) conclusions. 
&gt;I keep logs of everything here (I never delete any email, no matter how
&gt;trivial) cross-indexed and searchable up the ying-yang by various
&gt;automated tools for that very reason.  It gives a sense of context and
&gt;reference that I feel is invaluable.  MUD chat is just too ephemeral.
&gt;
&gt;((this is probably why I'm so lost without my archives at work))
&gt;
&gt;&gt;Just a thought.
&gt;
&gt;If the cable modems do come in here (looks like it) I do intend to make
&gt;the list archives available along with various other collected documents
&gt;and references.
&gt;
&gt;-- 
&gt;J C Lawrence                               Internet: claw#null,net
&gt;----------(*)                              Internet: coder#ibm,net
&gt;...Honourary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith...
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;


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<LI><STRONG>Support mud [was Re: Languages]</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00553" HREF="msg00553.html">Support mud [was Re: Languages]</A></strong>, 
Oliver Jowett <a href="mailto:oliver#sa-search,massey.ac.nz">oliver#sa-search,massey.ac.nz</a>, Sun 18 May 1997, 07:48 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00536" HREF="msg00536.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages</A></strong>, 
coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Sun 18 May 1997, 02:58 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00563" HREF="msg00563.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages</A></strong>, 
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Mon 19 May 1997, 00:17 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00637" HREF="msg00637.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages</A></strong>, 
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 21 May 1997, 03:10 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00569" HREF="msg00569.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages</A></strong>, 
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Mon 19 May 1997, 03:25 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00572" HREF="msg00572.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages</A></strong>, 
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user1,inficad.com">nightfall#user1,inficad.com</a>, Mon 19 May 1997, 07:02 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00640" HREF="msg00640.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages</A></strong>, 
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 21 May 1997, 03:45 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00601" HREF="msg00601.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages</A></strong>, 
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Tue 20 May 1997, 00:12 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00602" HREF="msg00602.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages</A></strong>, 
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Tue 20 May 1997, 00:12 GMT
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