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<LI><em>From</em>: Jeff Kesselman <<A HREF="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</A>></LI>
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At 09:36 PM 6/22/97 PST8PDT, Adam wrote:
>[Jeff K:]
>> Roll playing and Rule playing...
>>
>> GM: Awfulness the Evilone waves his arms, a glow emanates from his
>> fingertips and around him the trees and shrubs wither and die, as you watch
>> the entire graveyard picks up the glow and comes alive as the dead crawl
>> out of their crypts. One spots you and croaks "BRAAAAIIINSS"!
>>
>> Joe Roleplayer: COOL! I scream and hide behind the cleric shouting "cast
>> protection from evil!!"
>>
>> John Ruleplayer: (Furiously thumbing through the rulebook) "What spell is
>> that? I don't see that anywhere..."
>>
>> 'nuff said
>
>Just looking for more chances to stir up controversey, Jeff?
>Anyhow, I'd say it would be more accurate to state it like this:
>
>GM: <see above>
>
>Joe Roleplay: Acht! T'is the most gruesome thing I've seen since my
>encounter with the undead beholder oh so long ago! Friend Cleric - call
>upon your god to help us in this time of need!
>
>John Ruleplay: I don't have any more protection from evils mem'ed, dude.
>I told you we should have spent another night camped outside before we
>came in.
>
>Since ruleplayers delight in intense knowledge of the 'system', I hardly
>think they would get caught thumbing through a rulebook in the midst of
>gameplay.
Its an equally nice example but it doesnt get at what I was getting at in
re your comments on "knowing the system."
To wit: a ruleplayer expects everything to happen exactly as its in the
book and, if its not in the book, it can't happen.
A roleplayer delights in the new and inventive and doesn't worry about such
things.
And yes, my roleplayer example was a minimum roleplayer, with touches of
rollplayer perhapse, but the second was DEFINATELY the "ruleplayer", also
knwon as the "rules-lawyer".
JK
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01628" HREF="msg01628.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Supporting RP+PG</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01433" HREF="msg01433.html">The Difference between..</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01453" HREF="msg01453.html">Pen-and-paper and Computer-based systems</A></strong>,
Alex Oren <a href="mailto:alexo#bigfoot,com">alexo#bigfoot,com</a>, Mon 23 Jun 1997, 18:50 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01428" HREF="msg01428.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Git out the boar spear, Martha!</A></strong>,
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Mon 23 Jun 1997, 02:31 GMT
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