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<LI><em>From</em>: Jeff Kesselman <<A HREF="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</A>></LI>
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At 09:46 PM 6/25/97 PST8PDT, Jon Lambert wrote:
>> From: Jeff Kesselman <jeffk#tenetwork,com>
>> Subject: [MUD-Dev] Integrating PK
>> Simepl question -- how?
>> Ina world with dynamic IP how do you keep people out of your game? About
>> the only mechanism I can think of that worksin a non comemrical environment
>> is to require every player to fil lotu an applciation and be apprtoved...
>> and a few might still manage to sneak back in.
>>
>> If you are billing, then you have a bit mreo to work with.. we block
>> account creation by a credit card that was used to create a previously
>> booted account/
>>
>I have always wondered...
>
>Are there any legal/business obligations involved in banning a player
>from a commercial mud?
Not as long as your TOS says you can. Typicvally a TOS in addition to
lsiting specific behaviors which wil lget your removed ahs a clause saying
'we reserve the right to deny servcuie to anyoen for any reason.'
Remember, its still a private space, not a public space. We own the
machines. The ONLy potentail issue is if you could be shown to be
specificly and sytematicly violating laws against descrimiantion (the laws
in gernalk terms are limited to race, sex, disability, and in some states
sexual orientation.)
>
>Is there any chance of banned players taking legal action against
>a commercial mud because of the exchange of money for services?
Nope. You have the right to do business or not to do business with nayoen
you chose in a capitalist society. the only limit being the above.
>
>And in an uncertain humorous vein...
>
>Does the Better Business Bureau ever get mail bombed with the same
>sort of player whining that we see on rgma?
Nope, most of em don't knwo what a BBB is... and the BBB doersnt knwo what
MUD is.
Funny true story -- we banned a group of asshoels and oen of em wrote us a
psuedo legalese document claimign he was going to sue us for descriminating
against him because he was evil (not his character). We showed to our
lawyer just for a lugh. After he got up off the floor his comment was "You
have come u pwith an interestign legal argument.. I suggest you first test
it by suing the United States for goivernment for descrimination and demand
they release all those people who are locked up just because they are evil."
JK
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<LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Mob AI</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01557" HREF="msg01557.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Mob AI</A></strong>,
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Fri 27 Jun 1997, 21:48 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01538" HREF="msg01538.html">Hardcore server design</A></strong>,
Alex Oren <a href="mailto:alexo#bigfoot,com">alexo#bigfoot,com</a>, Thu 26 Jun 1997, 22:35 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="01516" HREF="msg01516.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Integrating PK</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 26 Jun 1997, 11:23 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01520" HREF="msg01520.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Integrating PK</A></strong>,
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Thu 26 Jun 1997, 13:33 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01525" HREF="msg01525.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Integrating PK</A></strong>,
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Thu 26 Jun 1997, 14:10 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01545" HREF="msg01545.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Integrating PK</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01546" HREF="msg01546.html">[MUD-Dev] Integrating PK</A></strong>,
Brandon Cline <a href="mailto:brandon#merlin,sedona.net">brandon#merlin,sedona.net</a>, Fri 27 Jun 1997, 11:34 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01556" HREF="msg01556.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Integrating PK</A></strong>,
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Fri 27 Jun 1997, 21:48 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01569" HREF="msg01569.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Integrating PK</A></strong>,
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