<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Administrative notes --> <!--X-From-R13: "Xba O. Znzoreg" <wyflfvapNvk.argpbz.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: from babe.globecomm.net [207.51.48.8] by mx5.ibm.net id 863578157.49054-1 Wed May 14 02:49:17 1997 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199705140132.UAA10809@dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Administrative notes</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00448.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00450.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00439.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00463.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00449">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00449">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00449">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Administrative notes</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Administrative notes</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Jon A. Lambert" <<A HREF="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 13 May 1997 21:35:22 -0400</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> > From: Miroslav Silovic <silovic#srce,hr> > > > > > Exactly. A Roleplayer, according to my twisted view, might create a > > warrior that had a very weak strength and may also select background > > options that would have a severe impact on their combat > > Umm, uhh, errr, you're wrong. :) Roleplayers won't do this without > a good /reason/. Yes roleplayers WILL do this. I didn't even touch on the reasons. The point was made in contrast to "rollplayers". A roleplayer also needs to have a damn good reason to create a super character, but since "rollplayers" understand this to be "winning the game", its not a good example to compare and contrast against. > > > effectiveness (cowardice, epilepsy, etc.). A Rollplayer *boggles* at this > > concept. Many of todays muds preclude such a character from "developing" > > in any significant way. Character power or perfection seems to be the > > only goals. An entire rethink of game systems is definately in order. > > My point here: There is no need for roleplayers to be 'weak'. It simply > has no relevance to them - most can actually become *extremely* strong > characters. The important issue is being *completely clear* about why > the character does something. > You confuse the issue. I did not say they had to be weak. Rewarding experience to the those who attract the most notice through "over-acting" is also bad system IMHO. I prefer a blend of objective and subjective rewards. If "acting" and "emoting" was the only interest of my RP group, I'd just boot up a chat server. Note that there are different camps of roleplayers too. I believe a thread a long while back on rgma (started by O. Henry?) brought out a lot of these differences. Now if I can only find it on DejaNews JL </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00463" HREF="msg00463.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Administrative notes</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> silovic#srce,hr (Miroslav Silovic)</li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00448.html">Re: Disk v. 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Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Tue 13 May 1997, 11:39 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00485" HREF="msg00485.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Administrative notes</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Fri 16 May 1997, 01:07 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00439" HREF="msg00439.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Administrative notes</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Wed 14 May 1997, 02:39 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00449" HREF="msg00449.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Administrative notes</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Wed 14 May 1997, 09:49 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00463" HREF="msg00463.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Administrative notes</A></strong>, Miroslav Silovic <a href="mailto:silovic#srce,hr">silovic#srce,hr</a>, Wed 14 May 1997, 22:43 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00513" HREF="msg00513.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Administrative notes</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sat 17 May 1997, 06:29 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00526" HREF="msg00526.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Administrative notes</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sun 18 May 1997, 00:09 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00531" HREF="msg00531.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Administrative notes</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user1,inficad.com">nightfall#user1,inficad.com</a>, Sun 18 May 1997, 02:18 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>