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<LI><em>From</em>: Ling &lt;<A HREF="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lut.ac.uk">K.L.Lo-94#student,lut.ac.uk</A>&gt;</LI>
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On Sun, 11 May 1997, Dan Root wrote:

&gt; cg#ami-cg,graysage.edmonton.ab.ca (Chris Gray) writes:
&gt; 
&gt; &gt; :A small footprint in memory (under 300k for the binary, plus object
&gt; &gt; :and attribute caches for a total on the order of 1.5M resident in a
&gt; &gt; :medium sized database).
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; MUDServ 		  182888 ----rwed 03-May-97 19:41:28

That looks like my dear old Amiga's list command output.  Don't forget
programs on the Amiga are teenie weenie, port it to something else and
it'll mushroom.  I made a paint program in C and it compiled to 5k of
code.  Hey, Chris, ever tried putting linux on an Amiga?

&gt; Just out of curiosity, what sort of system type is this?  (I don't
&gt; recognize the directory listing style)

See above.

&gt; The 300k goal wasn't for the database itself, but for the amount of
&gt; code.  I was disgusted when I discovered that TinyMUCK was over 1.2M
&gt; of code.  300k is high itself.  I'm honestly hoping for around
&gt; 175-200k.  The database itself is likely going to be huge. :)

Hmm... Strange you guys talk about this sort of stuff.  Personally, I
don't care coz I think my server will take up less space than an LP
therefore it's small. :)

[Rest of the stuff about languages and stuff]

Whoosh!  Straight over my head!

I may as well drop in my extremely vague aims:

Majority of mud specific stuff coded into the server itself, eg: combat,
standard object, room, people, elastic bands.

Attachment of code to any object.

Disk based.

*Portable*

I don't have a site to run it on or anything like that, I'm running off on
a shoestring budget and I expect to move around between various boxes
(linux kind, not cardboard).


  |    Ling				"Mental slavery,
_O_O_  Freshwater fish since 1976	 set my spirit free"



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<LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev]  RP thesis...</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00447" HREF="msg00447.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  RP thesis...</A></strong>, 
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 14 May 1997, 08:01 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00377" HREF="msg00377.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]	Role-playing [was Re: several messages]</A></strong>, 
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Mon 12 May 1997, 02:43 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00376" HREF="msg00376.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]	 Introduction</A></strong>, 
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Mon 12 May 1997, 02:43 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00380" HREF="msg00380.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Introduction</A></strong>, 
Dan Root <a href="mailto:dar#thekeep,org">dar#thekeep,org</a>, Mon 12 May 1997, 03:41 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00386" HREF="msg00386.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Introduction</A></strong>, 
Ling <a href="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lut.ac.uk">K.L.Lo-94#student,lut.ac.uk</a>, Mon 12 May 1997, 08:49 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00387" HREF="msg00387.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Introduction</A></strong>, 
Dan Root <a href="mailto:dar#thekeep,org">dar#thekeep,org</a>, Mon 12 May 1997, 09:52 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00392" HREF="msg00392.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Introduction</A></strong>, 
Ling <a href="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lut.ac.uk">K.L.Lo-94#student,lut.ac.uk</a>, Mon 12 May 1997, 13:33 GMT
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