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<H1>Re: [MUD-Dev]  RP thesis...</H1>
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<LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</A></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 12 May 97 17:53:52 -0700</LI>
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In &lt;<A HREF="msg00382.html">Pine.LNX.3.96.970511220459.930W-100000#mpc,dyn.ml.org</A>&gt;, on
05/11/97 
   at 02:16 PM, Matt Chatterley &lt;root#mpc,dyn.ml.org&gt; said:

&gt;On Sun, 11 May 1997, Jeff Kesselman wrote:

&gt;&gt; (2) Social behavior is foistered primarily when 2 things happen between
&gt;&gt; people;
&gt;&gt; 	(a) Communciation
&gt;&gt; 	(b) mutual respect

&gt;I particularly like that you highlight the second, it's often
&gt;overlooked.

To me this also highlights the core isde of the other main difference
between RP-centric MUDs and roll-playing MUDs: roll-playing MUDs are
goal-oriented.  Specifically there is a goal or goals which are
internally defined to the game system and which are attainable
entirely within the game system.  In such models you have the pursuit
of levels towards wizardhood, the compleation of quests, and sundries
like PK championships.  RP MUDs don't seem to define their goals
within the system, or if the goal does happen to lie within the
system, is not obtainable entirely within the system.  Inside this
difference lies the subjective value-add given to good role-playing
players, implied in which is the example of the player who allows his
character to die to forward the "story".

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<LI><strong><A NAME="00539" HREF="msg00539.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  RP thesis...</A></strong>, 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00542" HREF="msg00542.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  RP thesis...</A></strong>, 
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Sun 18 May 1997, 03:57 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00634" HREF="msg00634.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  RP thesis...</A></strong>, 
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 21 May 1997, 02:45 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00407" HREF="msg00407.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</A></strong>, 
Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Tue 13 May 1997, 01:20 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00447" HREF="msg00447.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  RP thesis...</A></strong>, 
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 14 May 1997, 08:01 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00377" HREF="msg00377.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]	Role-playing [was Re: several messages]</A></strong>, 
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Mon 12 May 1997, 02:43 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00376" HREF="msg00376.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]	 Introduction</A></strong>, 
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Mon 12 May 1997, 02:43 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00380" HREF="msg00380.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Introduction</A></strong>, 
Dan Root <a href="mailto:dar#thekeep,org">dar#thekeep,org</a>, Mon 12 May 1997, 03:41 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00386" HREF="msg00386.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Introduction</A></strong>, 
Ling <a href="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lut.ac.uk">K.L.Lo-94#student,lut.ac.uk</a>, Mon 12 May 1997, 08:49 GMT
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