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<LI><em>From</em>: Jamie Norrish &lt;<A HREF="mailto:jamie#sans,vuw.ac.nz">jamie#sans,vuw.ac.nz</A>&gt;</LI>
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Adam Wiggins writes:

&gt; This is another thing I have a problem with. People expect their
&gt; characters to live forever.

Do they? I don't think you can infer that from the six-year-old
child example. Being upset at a particular end to a character -
particularly with no former warning - seems to be a perfectly
'reasonable' reaction.

That is, a player may be willing to have their character die, but in
an appropriate fashion at a time more of their choosing. Or any number
of other options.

&gt; Lastly, yes I do expect people to just say, 'oh well'.  It's a game.
&gt; It's a character, a figment of your imagination.

Yes, and no. Figments of the imagination can be very powerful. I know
of one deeply IC roleplayer (not a MUDder, to my knowledge) who loses
part of herself, in a sense, when a character of hers dies - she can't
go back into that particular mindset, etc. It's all very well to say
"oh well", but that doesn't mean there isn't a problem.

Now, I think this is all basically a matter of game contract. If the
contract allows for this sort of behaviour, and everyone is informed
about the contract, then complaining about that fate would be
pointless - though that doesn't necessarily mean it isn't upsetting to
the player concerned. I do think, though, that contracts could be made
more explicit than they are on many MUDs, which would most likely help
to avoid some of the difficulties that example brings up.

&gt; You don't cry when you get to the end of a good book, or a good
&gt; movie, because it doesn't go on any longer

Speak for yourself.

&gt; - you think, 'Wow, that was a great book. Think I'll go buy another
&gt; one now.'

Which is not incompatible with the above, please note.

Jamie

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<LI><strong><A NAME="00971" HREF="msg00971.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>, 
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Sat 31 May 1997, 06:29 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00993" HREF="msg00993.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>, 
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#inficad,com">nightfall#inficad,com</a>, Sat 31 May 1997, 17:14 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01029" HREF="msg01029.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>, 
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Mon 02 Jun 1997, 05:00 GMT
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Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user1,inficad.com">nightfall#user1,inficad.com</a>, Mon 02 Jun 1997, 12:40 GMT
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Jamie Norrish <a href="mailto:jamie#sans,vuw.ac.nz">jamie#sans,vuw.ac.nz</a>, Mon 02 Jun 1997, 13:40 GMT
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Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#inficad,com">nightfall#inficad,com</a>, Tue 03 Jun 1997, 20:02 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01121" HREF="msg01121.html">[MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>, 
Jamie Norrish <a href="mailto:jamie#sans,vuw.ac.nz">jamie#sans,vuw.ac.nz</a>, Wed 04 Jun 1997, 06:03 GMT
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