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<LI><em>From</em>: Richard Woolcock <<A HREF="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</A>></LI>
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Greg Munt wrote:
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> This isn't a flame. Well, at least, I don't intend it to be one. There is
> a lot of rambling, and probably more bad assumptions. This may or may not
> be related to the ambiguity and 'fuzziness' of the subject matter.
>
> On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Richard Woolcock wrote:
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> > Greg Munt wrote:
> >
> > > I am wary of what will happen to my code - what it will be used to create
> > > - once I have made it available to the general public.
> >
> > I'm also considering releasing some code, and have similar worries...
> > The real difference is that there is already an (old) copy of my code
> > which was stolen, and is floating around on the net. Even if I release
> > my code, it was written when I was still learning C and some of it is
> > very badly written.
> >
> > Could I really bring myself to drop such a mud on the mudding community?
> > No...not normally - but at least it would be far better than the hacked-up
> > mess floating around at the moment (which some people who have copies of
> > are even selling, because I refuse to give out the code).
> >
> > At least if I did, it would be the first (to my knowledge) 'stock' leveless
> > mud (merc2.1 based), which might at least bring a little variety to the
> > stock scene.
>
> Summary: you think that you should release crap code to the community,
> because its 'less crap' than that which is currently circulating - and
> does provide 'a little variety to the stock scene'.
The code currently in circulation is already being considered a stock base
by many people. As far as 'adding a little variety'...well, it contains
more code than smaug, and has a completely different feel to any other
type of mud that I've ever played (it is basically 100% GoP).
[snip]
> If we were pure egotists, we would want to see unmodified versions of our
> code spread throughout the net. Wouldn't we? Perhaps, perhaps not. A
I would want to see the code changed - I am even considering only giving
copies to people who are first able to demonstrate good mud coding skills.
> steady flow of uninspiring stock muds condemns the base to ridicule on
> usenet (who claims that stock DIKU is a good piece of code?) - and
> indirectly, condemns us to it, too.
I admit that some of my code is bad - but the mud is fun to play, and isn't
that what a 'good mud' is about?
[snip]
> This thread asks a question which has no real answer. It states what is
> good, and what is bad, about releasing our code to the masses. But it does
> not answer the question, "Am I adding any value, by releasing my code?"
Possibly, possibly not. Perhaps I should answer with the question "Can
anyone know, until I've released my code?"
The fact of the matter is: A badly hacked up version of my code is already
being used (there are over half a dozen being run already). Should I just
leave things as they are, or release a better version officially, thus
stopping people charging money for copies of the code, as well as getting
recognition for the work I have done?
KaVir.
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00407" HREF="msg00407.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Source Code Release</A></strong>,
Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Wed 11 Feb 1998, 21:16 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00410" HREF="msg00410.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Source Code Release</A></strong>,
Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Thu 12 Feb 1998, 00:57 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00440" HREF="msg00440.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Source Code Release</A></strong>,
Greg Munt <a href="mailto:greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk">greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk</a>, Thu 12 Feb 1998, 19:11 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00497" HREF="msg00497.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Source Code Release</A></strong>,
coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Mon 16 Feb 1998, 22:28 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00518" HREF="msg00518.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Source Code Release</A></strong>,
Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Wed 18 Feb 1998, 04:42 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00409" HREF="msg00409.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Source Code Release</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00439" HREF="msg00439.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Source Code Release</A></strong>,
Greg Munt <a href="mailto:greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk">greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk</a>, Thu 12 Feb 1998, 19:10 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00445" HREF="msg00445.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Source Code Release</A></strong>,
Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Fri 13 Feb 1998, 00:48 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00454" HREF="msg00454.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Source Code Release</A></strong>,
Greg Munt <a href="mailto:greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk">greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk</a>, Sat 14 Feb 1998, 00:10 GMT
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