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<LI><em>From</em>: "Jon A. Lambert" &lt;<A HREF="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</A>&gt;</LI>
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On 11 Jan 98 at 20:21, Mike Sellers wrote:
&gt; 
&gt; Another way to look at this is contained in the story of Beowulf, as it's
&gt; changed over the centuries.  As I understand it, the story progressed along
&gt; lines something like this:
&gt; 
&gt; 1) We went out.  We killed the monster. 
&gt; 2) We went out.  We killed the monster.  We came home and got drunk.
&gt; 3) We went out.  We were scared.  We killed the monster.  We came home and
&gt; got drunk.
&gt; 4) We went out.  We were scared.  We killed the monster.  We saved our
&gt; village.  We came home and got drunk.
&gt; 
&gt; Most RPGs/MUDs/etc are at 1) or 2) above: just the external facts, perhaps
&gt; with a little heroic celebrating.  The addition of the internalization
&gt; evident in 3) is signficant, and is the beginning of real theater,
&gt; roleplaying, and satisfying fiction.  With 4) we see the beginning of the
&gt; addition of the theme, the human-mythic context that makes the story
&gt; *meaningful* and adds human context to the string of events.  That, I
&gt; guess, is the kind of thing I'm going for in my games (tabletop or online).
&gt;  I continue to think that there is immense commercial and human value in
&gt; this, but that actually doing it is no easy feat.
&gt; 

Cheers! I think this is an excellent example of the point at which 
game-only playing metamorphs into role-playing.  

--
Jon A. Lambert
"Everything that deceives may be said to enchant" - Plato

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<LI><strong><A NAME="00145" HREF="msg00145.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Commercial value of RP</A></strong>, 
Ling <a href="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk">K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk</a>, Fri 09 Jan 1998, 18:11 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00158" HREF="msg00158.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Commercial value of RP</A></strong>, 
Mike Sellers <a href="mailto:mike#online-alchemy,com">mike#online-alchemy,com</a>, Sat 10 Jan 1998, 01:00 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00177" HREF="msg00177.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Commercial value of RP</A></strong>, 
Miroslav Silovic <a href="mailto:silovic#zesoi,fer.hr">silovic#zesoi,fer.hr</a>, Sat 10 Jan 1998, 15:32 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00188" HREF="msg00188.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Commercial value of RP</A></strong>, 
Mike Sellers <a href="mailto:mike#online-alchemy,com">mike#online-alchemy,com</a>, Sat 10 Jan 1998, 19:17 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00205" HREF="msg00205.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Commercial value of RP</A></strong>, 
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Mon 12 Jan 1998, 06:12 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00024" HREF="msg00024.html">my bio (was Re: [MUD-Dev]  Mud-Dev FAQ)</A></strong>, 
Mike Sellers <a href="mailto:mike#online-alchemy,com">mike#online-alchemy,com</a>, Mon 05 Jan 1998, 06:11 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00023" HREF="msg00023.html">Who's bugging who? : was- Wild West</A></strong>, 
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sun 04 Jan 1998, 20:44 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00020" HREF="msg00020.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Circumstances &amp; Situations</A></strong>, 
Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Sun 04 Jan 1998, 01:15 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00019" HREF="msg00019.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Mail from mud Update :)</A></strong>, 
Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Sun 04 Jan 1998, 01:10 GMT
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