<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients --> <!--X-From-R13: pbqreNvoz.arg --> <!--X-Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 02:19:25 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199802120219.CAA74494#out4,ibm.net --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.SUN.3.96.980114095340.4651C-100000@sun38 --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:coder#ibm,net"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00420.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00423.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00404.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00403.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00421">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00421">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00421">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 11 Feb 98 11:33:14 -0800</LI> <LI><em>Reply-to</em>: <A HREF="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On 14/01/98 at 07:27 AM, Shawn Halpenny <malachai#iname,com> said: >On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Caliban Tiresias Darklock wrote: >> I think what he's saying is he wants command mode and input mode -- >> sort of like in vi, you're either inputting to the file (the MUD in >> this case) or controlling the editor (the client). I don't know that >> I'd completely agree with this idea, as it seems sort of backward; >> after all, you could probably do just as well with a separate command >> line altogether for the client. There's also the possibility that he >> wants the command line to have the same *syntax* as vi. If that's what >> he's asking for, then I have to kind of wonder what good the majority >> of vi's commands would be in a MUD client. >Anyone who has used bash or ksh in vi mode knows exactly what I'm >referring to. Essentially, take the majority of the single-line editing >and movement commands from vi and stick them into the command-line >editing facilities of the client. Modal interfaces are generally considered/found to be poor designs from a human usability viewpoint. Outside of trained responses, such are your own history with vi, people don't tend to think in modal manners. Note: A vi mode would require either the server to run in character mode (interface is done server-side) with its resultant net bandwidth/lag problems, or done client-side with the resultant edited line sent to the server (ie only available to the client, not raw telnet, and requires the client to maintain significant context data). -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#null,net ----------(*) Internet: coder#ibm,net ...Honourary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00239" HREF="msg00239.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Shawn Halpenny <malachai#iname,com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00420.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The impact of the web on muds</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00423.html">META: Unsubscribed users dur to bounces</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00404.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00403.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00421"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00421"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>OT: Insane Wordwrapping</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00242" HREF="msg00242.html">OT: Insane Wordwrapping</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Wed 14 Jan 1998, 17:05 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00244" HREF="msg00244.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Insane Wordwrapping</A></strong>, Alex Oren <a href="mailto:alexo#bigfoot,com">alexo#bigfoot,com</a>, Thu 15 Jan 1998, 14:01 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00243" HREF="msg00243.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Wed 14 Jan 1998, 23:23 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00404" HREF="msg00404.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Wed 11 Feb 1998, 20:05 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00421" HREF="msg00421.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Thu 12 Feb 1998, 02:19 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00403" HREF="msg00403.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Wed 11 Feb 1998, 19:23 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00422" HREF="msg00422.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Thu 12 Feb 1998, 02:17 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00424" HREF="msg00424.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Thu 12 Feb 1998, 03:35 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00425" HREF="msg00425.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 12 Feb 1998, 05:17 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>