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<LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 11 Feb 98 11:33:14 -0800</LI>
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On 14/01/98 at 07:27 AM, Shawn Halpenny &lt;malachai#iname,com&gt; said: &gt;On
Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Caliban Tiresias Darklock wrote:

&gt;&gt; I think what he's saying is he wants command mode and input mode --
&gt;&gt; sort of like in vi, you're either inputting to the file (the MUD in
&gt;&gt; this case) or controlling the editor (the client). I don't know that
&gt;&gt; I'd completely agree with this idea, as it seems sort of backward;
&gt;&gt; after all, you could probably do just as well with a separate command
&gt;&gt; line altogether for the client. There's also the possibility that he
&gt;&gt; wants the command line to have the same *syntax* as vi. If that's what
&gt;&gt; he's asking for, then I have to kind of wonder what good the majority
&gt;&gt; of vi's commands would be in a MUD client.

&gt;Anyone who has used bash or ksh in vi mode knows exactly what I'm
&gt;referring to.  Essentially, take the majority of the single-line editing
&gt;and movement commands from vi and stick them into the command-line
&gt;editing facilities of the client.

Modal interfaces are generally considered/found to be poor designs from a
human usability viewpoint.  Outside of trained responses, such are your
own history with vi, people don't tend to think in modal manners.

Note: A vi mode would require either the server to run in character mode
(interface is done server-side) with its resultant net bandwidth/lag
problems, or done client-side with the resultant edited line sent to the
server (ie only available to the client, not raw telnet, and requires the
client to maintain significant context data).

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<LI><strong><A NAME="00242" HREF="msg00242.html">OT: Insane Wordwrapping</A></strong>, 
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Wed 14 Jan 1998, 17:05 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00244" HREF="msg00244.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  OT: Insane Wordwrapping</A></strong>, 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00243" HREF="msg00243.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Clients</A></strong>, 
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Wed 14 Jan 1998, 23:23 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00404" HREF="msg00404.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Clients</A></strong>, 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00421" HREF="msg00421.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Clients</A></strong>, 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00403" HREF="msg00403.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Clients</A></strong>, 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00422" HREF="msg00422.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Clients</A></strong>, 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00424" HREF="msg00424.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Clients</A></strong>, 
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Thu 12 Feb 1998, 03:35 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00425" HREF="msg00425.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Clients</A></strong>, 
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 12 Feb 1998, 05:17 GMT
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