1998Q1/
<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 -->
<!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD&#45;Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5? -->
<!--X-From-R13: Hnqvz Fxnpuraxb <inqvzgN4pf.pbz> -->
<!--X-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 06:14:00 +0000 -->
<!--X-Message-Id: 34CAD812.F7A04CE#4cs,com -->
<!--X-Content-Type: text/plain -->
<!--X-Reference: 9801241718.8raw@ami&#45;cg.GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA -->
<!--X-Reference: 34CA4AA8.405E3BB2#darklock,com -->
<!--X-Head-End-->
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
<html>
<head>
<title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5?</title>
<!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" -->
<link rev="made" href="mailto:vadimt#4cs,com">
</head>
<body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff"
      text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000">

  <font size="+4" color="#804040">
    <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong>
  </font>
      
<br>
[&nbsp;<a href="../">Other Periods</a>
&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a>
&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="/search.php3">Search</a>
&nbsp;]
<br clear=all><hr>
<!--X-Body-Begin-->
<!--X-User-Header-->
<!--X-User-Header-End-->
<!--X-TopPNI-->

Date:&nbsp;
[&nbsp;<a href="msg00307.html">Previous</a>
&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="msg00309.html">Next</a>
&nbsp;]
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Thread:&nbsp;
[&nbsp;<a href="msg00305.html">Previous</a>
&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="msg00310.html">Next</a>
&nbsp;]
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Index:&nbsp;
[&nbsp;<A HREF="author.html#00308">Author</A>
&nbsp;|&nbsp;<A HREF="#00308">Date</A>
&nbsp;|&nbsp;<A HREF="thread.html#00308">Thread</A>
&nbsp;]

<!--X-TopPNI-End-->
<!--X-MsgBody-->
<!--X-Subject-Header-Begin-->
<H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5?</H1>
<HR>
<!--X-Subject-Header-End-->
<!--X-Head-of-Message-->
<UL>
<LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI>
<LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5?</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: Vadim Tkachenko &lt;<A HREF="mailto:vadimt#4cs,com">vadimt#4cs,com</A>&gt;</LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 00:13:38 -0600</LI>
</UL>
<!--X-Head-of-Message-End-->
<!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin-->
<HR>
<!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End-->
<!--X-Body-of-Message-->
<PRE>
Caliban Tiresias Darklock wrote:

&gt; Chris Gray wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; [Greg Munt:]
&gt; &gt;
&gt; Client and server side scripting could both use JavaScript, a clone of
&gt; the Microsoft Active Server Page standards could be hacked into the server, and
&gt; the rendering code could be maintained in order to allow text effects and
&gt; multimedia. Rooms could contain multimedia content such as background sounds and
&gt; music, by extending the server to handle HTTP using the same code already in
&gt; Netscape. Java applets could be used to generate dynamic maps based on the
&gt; current state of the database. When you think about it, you can probably use the
&gt; NSAPI to make a MUD server that plugs into an existing web server -- which could
&gt; lessen the memory and processor load of a MUD considerably, and make it largely
&gt; platform-independent.
&gt;

From my standpoint, I'd rather avoid any Misrosoft solutions in any form just
because they're tied too strongly to Win32, NSAPI because it's just another
proprietary technology (Netscape's in this case), and you can use servlets (which
all decent HTTP servers support at the moment), which gives you even more platform
independency than the solutions you've mentioned.

&gt; This is all off the top of my head, of course, and while a lot of people might
&gt; wonder what the hell I'm thinking by saying that we could actually use
&gt; JavaScript as a MUD scripting language,

Don't you think it's too unstable for a complicated solutions? Every Javascript app
I've seen so far is way too flaky...

&gt; &gt; it could simply mark the
&gt; &gt; death of Netscape as a company (with the original sources out there, the
&gt; &gt; browser itself should survive for a long time).

One of my co-workers gave it 4-5 years just a couple of months ago :-))

&gt; Netscape has always realised its greatest revenue from sales of its server, so I
&gt; don't think it's going to suffer overly. Reports are showing that their revenue
&gt; from client sales are pretty minimal at present, as well... so I don't think
&gt; this is going to hurt them much. What it WILL do, however, is get millions of
&gt; people to say 'Netscape is cool' and talk about them more.

Sure it will :-)

&gt; Incidentally, this is perfect timing. My Netscape client software subscription
&gt; certificate was about to expire. ;)

For me, it's a blessing - I've just bought a computer :-)

&gt; =+[caliban#darklock,com]=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=[<A  HREF="http://www.darklock.com/]+=">http://www.darklock.com/]+=</A>

--vt

PS: This is a first message I'm writing from Netscape 4.04 for Win95, and the
quoting style looks weird - can someone drop me a note if it looks weird for you
too?


</PRE>

<!--X-Body-of-Message-End-->
<!--X-MsgBody-End-->
<!--X-Follow-Ups-->
<HR>
<ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>:
<ul>
<li><strong><A NAME="00310" HREF="msg00310.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5?</A></strong>
<ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Caliban Tiresias Darklock &lt;caliban#darklock,com&gt;</li></ul>
</UL></LI></UL>
<!--X-Follow-Ups-End-->
<!--X-References-->
<UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>:
<UL>
<LI><STRONG><A NAME="00302" HREF="msg00302.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]	Clients based on Netscape 5?</A></STRONG>
<UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA (Chris Gray)</LI></UL></LI>
<LI><STRONG><A NAME="00305" HREF="msg00305.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5?</A></STRONG>
<UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Caliban Tiresias Darklock &lt;caliban#darklock,com&gt;</LI></UL></LI>
</UL></LI></UL>
<!--X-References-End-->
<!--X-BotPNI-->
<UL>
<LI>Prev by Date:
<STRONG><A HREF="msg00307.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  CORBA, RMI, threads</A></STRONG>
</LI>
<LI>Next by Date:
<STRONG><A HREF="msg00309.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The impact of the web on muds</A></STRONG>
</LI>
<LI>Prev by thread:
<STRONG><A HREF="msg00305.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5?</A></STRONG>
</LI>
<LI>Next by thread:
<STRONG><A HREF="msg00310.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5?</A></STRONG>
</LI>
<LI>Index(es):
<UL>
<LI><A HREF="index.html#00308"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI>
<LI><A HREF="thread.html#00308"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI>
</UL>
</LI>
</UL>

<!--X-BotPNI-End-->
<!--X-User-Footer-->
<!--X-User-Footer-End-->
<ul><li>Thread context:
<BLOCKQUOTE><UL>
<LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5?</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
<ul compact>
<LI><strong><A NAME="00327" HREF="msg00327.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5?</A></strong>, 
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Tue 27 Jan 1998, 07:05 GMT
</LI>
</ul>
</LI>
<LI><strong><A NAME="00302" HREF="msg00302.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]	Clients based on Netscape 5?</A></strong>, 
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sat 24 Jan 1998, 18:19 GMT
<UL>
<LI><strong><A NAME="00303" HREF="msg00303.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5?</A></strong>, 
Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Sat 24 Jan 1998, 19:24 GMT
</LI>
<LI><strong><A NAME="00305" HREF="msg00305.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5?</A></strong>, 
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Sat 24 Jan 1998, 20:11 GMT
<UL>
<LI><strong><A NAME="00308" HREF="msg00308.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5?</A></strong>, 
Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vadimt#4cs,com">vadimt#4cs,com</a>, Sun 25 Jan 1998, 06:14 GMT
<UL>
<LI><strong><A NAME="00310" HREF="msg00310.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5?</A></strong>, 
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Sun 25 Jan 1998, 07:36 GMT
<UL>
<LI><strong><A NAME="00311" HREF="msg00311.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5?</A></strong>, 
Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vadimt#4cs,com">vadimt#4cs,com</a>, Sun 25 Jan 1998, 18:28 GMT
</LI>
</UL>
</LI>
</UL>
</LI>
<LI><strong><A NAME="00442" HREF="msg00442.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5?</A></strong>, 
coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Thu 12 Feb 1998, 22:07 GMT
</LI>
</UL>
</LI>
</UL>
</LI>
<LI><strong><A NAME="00301" HREF="msg00301.html">Clients based on Netscape 5?</A></strong>, 
Greg Munt <a href="mailto:greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk">greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk</a>, Sat 24 Jan 1998, 01:16 GMT
</UL></BLOCKQUOTE>

</ul>
<hr>
<center>
[&nbsp;<a href="../">Other Periods</a>
&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a>
&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="/search.php3">Search</a>
&nbsp;]
</center>
<hr>
</body>
</html>