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<LI><em>From</em>: Ben Greear &lt;<A HREF="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</A>&gt;</LI>
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On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Jon A. Lambert wrote:

&gt; Yep.  Big problem.  Will they ever?  Not if IE supplants Netscape and 
&gt; Sun doesn't cry uncle and remove or revise certain "MS offensive" 
&gt; specifications from the 1.1 JDK.  BTW, This is not a diatribe either 
&gt; way, just an observation of the current state.  
&gt; 
&gt; One can get most of the 1.1 JDK to work in most browsers.  It's just
&gt; a real pain in the ass to find out what to stay way from.  The 
&gt; only alternative is to maintain different versions. (groan)

Thats not really true.  AFAIK, only netscape 4.04 with the java patch
and IE 4.01 will run JDK 1.1.  I think Netscape 4.0x with a patch will
kinda run 1.1.  Hotjava and stuff will, of course...but no one has it..

&gt; 
&gt; &gt; Yeah, I think it's pretty easy to build with the client, once you
&gt; &gt; get it running.  But getting it running is the hard part.  It will
&gt; &gt; get better as more ppl have updated browsers..or that activator
&gt; &gt; stuff ever gets widespread.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; 
&gt; ActiveX is supported by Netscape and IE so thats 80%+ of your 
&gt; web clients (Lynx be damned!).  However, I don't know of any non-MS 
&gt; server-side support for ActiveX.  JavaBeans are also easier to code 
&gt; and understand. 

Hmmm, might have been a misunderstanding here.  activator is a product
from sun that will leverages a JRE or JDK (the latest, or you're choice)
to run applets.  It's a plugin, and they supposedly work with netscape
3.03+ and IE 3.??+.  Last time I tried my applet it choked
though..although from Solaris it did quite nicely.


If you're at all interested in running 1.1 applets, I'd look into the
activator...try java.developer.com (I think...if it's wrong let me know.)


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