<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] What in THE Hell was that? --> <!--X-From-R13: "Xba O. Znzoreg" <Xba.O.ZnzoregNvk.argpbz.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 00:38:17 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199803140038.SAA13333@dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 3508EC19.21C75B1E#enid,com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] What in THE Hell was that?</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00709.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00711.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00726.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00696.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00710">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00710">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00710">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] What in THE Hell was that?</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] What in THE Hell was that?</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Jon A. Lambert" <<A HREF="mailto:Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com">Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:41:10 -5</LI> <LI><em>Reply-to</em>: <A HREF="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On 13 Mar 98 at 0:18, Stephen Zepp wrote: > > Ok..maybe I missed something, but I didn't see where this would be > announced. In addition, I don't see where any of this is "on topic". > Finally, I joined this list to learn about advanced design and > coding topics, not be spammed by the list owner about some > "experiment" that occured 4 years ago, regarding things that I am > not interested in. I have learned some, but for the most part I > think the "signal to noise" ratio that was bragged about here just > dropped down a singularity. There are many here who ARE interested in mud governance, the implications of social structures, security issues and the effects of free user-programming. All of which are amply illustrated by the Darkover logs. I AGREE, One log was probably enough to illustrate the point. However, a subtle and even more important concept is that design and coding do not exist in a vacuum. There are huge implications from a user perspective to what one designs and codes. This goes far beyond the "easier to use" and "client interface issues". These social and environmental issues are probably more interesting to those of us who are designing role-playing, social and/or user-progammed servers. If you don't think these are design issues. I would merely point out that the Darkover scenario could not occur on an Ackmud! server. So, yes it's probably white noise to you. > I'd be willing to run another developmental discussion list if > others are interested, but I've had enough here. I'm always interested in new resources and forums. I have yet to unsubscribe from any of the mud lists I'm on. But then I don't demand that any of them service my needs exclusively. :) -- --/*\ Jon A. Lambert - TychoMUD Internet:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com /*\-- --/*\ Mud Server Developer's Page <<A HREF="http://www.netcom.com/~jlsysinc">http://www.netcom.com/~jlsysinc</A>> /*\-- --/*\ "Everything that deceives may be said to enchant" - Plato /*\-- </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00708" HREF="msg00708.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] What in THE Hell was that?</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Stephen Zepp <zoran#enid,com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00709.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] What in THE Hell was that?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00711.html">(fwd) Varying Time Commitment Levels: what's an admin to do?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00726.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] What in THE Hell was that?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00696.html">(short) AnarchyMOO parting salute</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00710"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00710"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00697" HREF="msg00697.html">AnarchyMOO purpose</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Fri 13 Mar 1998, 02:16 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00708" HREF="msg00708.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] What in THE Hell was that?</A></strong>, Stephen Zepp <a href="mailto:zoran#enid,com">zoran#enid,com</a>, Fri 13 Mar 1998, 08:16 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00709" HREF="msg00709.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] What in THE Hell was that?</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Fri 13 Mar 1998, 23:24 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00726" HREF="msg00726.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] What in THE Hell was that?</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Mon 16 Mar 1998, 23:27 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00710" HREF="msg00710.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] What in THE Hell was that?</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com">Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sat 14 Mar 1998, 00:38 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00696" HREF="msg00696.html">(short) AnarchyMOO parting salute</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Fri 13 Mar 1998, 02:14 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00695" HREF="msg00695.html">(long) AnarchyMOO Primary Log</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Fri 13 Mar 1998, 02:02 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00694" HREF="msg00694.html">2Cyberconf: An article</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Fri 13 Mar 1998, 01:32 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00693" HREF="msg00693.html">CT - A Hypothetical Session (mid 1995)</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Fri 13 Mar 1998, 01:13 GMT </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>