<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] (fwd) Functional Security --> <!--X-From-R13: "Tryvk O. Qebrf" <sryvkNkf1.fvzcyrk.ay> --> <!--X-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:40:49 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199803201639.RAA07071#xs1,simplex.nl --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] (fwd) Functional Security</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:felix#xs1,simplex.nl"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00790.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00791.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00791.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00776.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00789">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00789">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00789">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] (fwd) Functional Security</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] (fwd) Functional Security</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Felix A. Croes" <<A HREF="mailto:felix#xs1,simplex.nl">felix#xs1,simplex.nl</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:39:27 +0100 (MET)</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Miroslav Silovic <silovic#zesoi,fer.hr> wrote: > Matt Chatterley <matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org> writes: > > > It does exist in MudOS, but yes, is often downplayed, it seems. I haven't > > gone to any great lengths to change this (the only functions that I have > > really secured are those that interface with the FS and other 'sensitive' > > parts of the game backbone. To be more precise, a security system that provides call_other() safety exists in the Lima mudlib for MudOS. It works pretty well, but isn't perfect (for a criticism, read my recent postings in r.g.m.lp on the subject). > > One problem with introducing heavy function-security is that unless you > > design it in what appears (to me) a quite cumbersome way, you will cause > > problems when you wish unprivaleged objects to interact with each other in > > theoretically sensitive ways. > > Actually Cold seems to have solved this problem: It has the following > mechanisms: <feature list omitted> LPC has all of these as well. The afore-mentioned security system attempts to impose <default> security for code that does not explicitly make use of any of these features or permission checks. Felix Croes </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00790.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Net protocols for MUDing (was: Moore's Law sucks)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00791.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] (fwd) Functional Security</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00791.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] (fwd) Functional Security</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00776.html">(fwd) Functional Security</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00789"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00789"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] 3D engines for MUDs</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00873" HREF="msg00873.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] 3D engines for MUDs</A></strong>, Ling <a href="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk">K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk</a>, Tue 24 Mar 1998, 14:58 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00876" HREF="msg00876.html">3D engines for MUDs</A></strong>, s001gmu <a href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</a>, Tue 24 Mar 1998, 15:30 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00866" HREF="msg00866.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] 3D engines for MUDs</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Mon 23 Mar 1998, 23:21 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00791" HREF="msg00791.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] (fwd) Functional Security</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Fri 20 Mar 1998, 16:47 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00789" HREF="msg00789.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] (fwd) Functional Security</A></strong>, Felix A. Croes <a href="mailto:felix#xs1,simplex.nl">felix#xs1,simplex.nl</a>, Fri 20 Mar 1998, 16:40 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00776" HREF="msg00776.html">(fwd) Functional Security</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Fri 20 Mar 1998, 00:04 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00777" HREF="msg00777.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] (fwd) Functional Security</A></strong>, Ling <a href="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk">K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk</a>, Fri 20 Mar 1998, 03:16 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00780" HREF="msg00780.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] (fwd) Functional Security</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org">matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Fri 20 Mar 1998, 08:52 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00785" HREF="msg00785.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] (fwd) Functional Security</A></strong>, Miroslav Silovic <a href="mailto:silovic#zesoi,fer.hr">silovic#zesoi,fer.hr</a>, Fri 20 Mar 1998, 10:37 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>