<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: RE: [MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest --> <!--X-From-R13: "Ybfgre, Dncu" <exbfgreNbevtva.rn.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 20:13:00 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: c=US%a=_%p=EA%l=MOLACH-980227201254Z-79536#molach,origin.ea.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, RE: [MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00626.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00628.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00628.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00644.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00627">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00627">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00627">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>RE: [MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: "'<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A>'" <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: RE: [MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Koster, Raph" <<A HREF="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 14:12:54 -0600</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Friday, February 27, 1998 5:56 AM, Dr. Cat[SMTP:cat#bga,com] wrote: > > From: "Koster, Raph" <rkoster#origin,ea.com> > > > > Ultima I used a redefined B&W character set at 80x24 for all > > graphics,including the "3d" dungeon view, which was very simple. The > > space sections were overhead view, with an asterisk for a star, and > > little ship icons... Space got left out of all subsequent Ultimas, and > > Richard now says he was "putting the kitchen sink in" and now knows > > better. :) > The Apple II family didn't have > hardware redefinable character sets, like the later Atari 800 and > Commodore 64 did. Some companies provided software character generators > that ran in the "hi-res" graphics mode, but Richard wasn't using one of > those. The wildenress display used "tiles" that were twice as tall and > twices as wide as a text character, giving the ability to put around > 20x16 tiles on the screen. Maybe less than 16 vertically, I forget > whether he used the Apple's hardware 4 line text window. The remake had > a little less because of the addition of fancy blue and white borders, as > used in Ultima 3 and 4. The towns and castles used smaller shapes to get > more detail and maneuvering room on-screen, and matched the 40x24 > dimensions of an Apple text screen. Oops, I MEANT 40x24. :P My experience btw was on the Atari, which did use redefinable char sets at 40x24... I never actually saw the Apple version. U1 didn't use artifacting for the colors, but U3 did, as I recall, and it resulted in the tile size become 2x2 characters... -Raph </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00626.html">Re: MUD Development Digest</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00628.html">Tutorial: Let's build a Compiler! - Part IV: Interpreters</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00628.html">Tutorial: Let's build a Compiler! - Part IV: Interpreters</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00644.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00627"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00627"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00632" HREF="msg00632.html">Tutorial: Let's build a Compiler! - Part VI: Boolean Expressions</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Fri 27 Feb 1998, 23:58 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00631" HREF="msg00631.html">Tutorial: Let's build a Compiler! - Part V: Control Constructs</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Fri 27 Feb 1998, 23:55 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00629" HREF="msg00629.html">Tutorial: Let's build a Compiler! - Part III: More Expressions</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com">Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com</a>, Fri 27 Feb 1998, 23:25 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00628" HREF="msg00628.html">Tutorial: Let's build a Compiler! - Part IV: Interpreters</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com">Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com</a>, Fri 27 Feb 1998, 23:25 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00627" HREF="msg00627.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Fri 27 Feb 1998, 20:13 GMT <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00644" HREF="msg00644.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</A></strong>, Mike Sellers <a href="mailto:mike#online-alchemy,com">mike#online-alchemy,com</a>, Sat 28 Feb 1998, 07:00 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00624" HREF="msg00624.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Tutorial: Let's build a Compiler! - Part I: Introductio</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Fri 27 Feb 1998, 18:20 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00625" HREF="msg00625.html">Tutorial: Let's build a Compiler! - Part I: Introductio</A></strong>, s001gmu <a href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</a>, Fri 27 Feb 1998, 18:45 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00635" HREF="msg00635.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Tutorial: Let's build a Compiler! - Comments</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com">Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sat 28 Feb 1998, 02:09 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>