<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Source Code Release --> <!--X-From-R13: Dvpuneq Ibbypbpx <YnHveNqvny.cvcrk.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 04:42:43 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 34E953B2.202A#dial,pipex.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.LNX.3.91.980212145222.325D-100000@uni-corn.demon.co.uk --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Source Code Release</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00517.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00519.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00497.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00409.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00518">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00518">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00518">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Source Code Release</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Source Code Release </LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Richard Woolcock <<A HREF="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 01:09:06 -0800</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Greg Munt wrote: > > This isn't a flame. Well, at least, I don't intend it to be one. There is > a lot of rambling, and probably more bad assumptions. This may or may not > be related to the ambiguity and 'fuzziness' of the subject matter. > > On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Richard Woolcock wrote: > > > Greg Munt wrote: > > > > > I am wary of what will happen to my code - what it will be used to create > > > - once I have made it available to the general public. > > > > I'm also considering releasing some code, and have similar worries... > > The real difference is that there is already an (old) copy of my code > > which was stolen, and is floating around on the net. Even if I release > > my code, it was written when I was still learning C and some of it is > > very badly written. > > > > Could I really bring myself to drop such a mud on the mudding community? > > No...not normally - but at least it would be far better than the hacked-up > > mess floating around at the moment (which some people who have copies of > > are even selling, because I refuse to give out the code). > > > > At least if I did, it would be the first (to my knowledge) 'stock' leveless > > mud (merc2.1 based), which might at least bring a little variety to the > > stock scene. > > Summary: you think that you should release crap code to the community, > because its 'less crap' than that which is currently circulating - and > does provide 'a little variety to the stock scene'. The code currently in circulation is already being considered a stock base by many people. As far as 'adding a little variety'...well, it contains more code than smaug, and has a completely different feel to any other type of mud that I've ever played (it is basically 100% GoP). [snip] > If we were pure egotists, we would want to see unmodified versions of our > code spread throughout the net. Wouldn't we? Perhaps, perhaps not. A I would want to see the code changed - I am even considering only giving copies to people who are first able to demonstrate good mud coding skills. > steady flow of uninspiring stock muds condemns the base to ridicule on > usenet (who claims that stock DIKU is a good piece of code?) - and > indirectly, condemns us to it, too. I admit that some of my code is bad - but the mud is fun to play, and isn't that what a 'good mud' is about? [snip] > This thread asks a question which has no real answer. It states what is > good, and what is bad, about releasing our code to the masses. But it does > not answer the question, "Am I adding any value, by releasing my code?" Possibly, possibly not. Perhaps I should answer with the question "Can anyone know, until I've released my code?" The fact of the matter is: A badly hacked up version of my code is already being used (there are over half a dozen being run already). Should I just leave things as they are, or release a better version officially, thus stopping people charging money for copies of the code, as well as getting recognition for the work I have done? KaVir. </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00440" HREF="msg00440.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Source Code Release</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Greg Munt <greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00517.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The MLI Project</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00519.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00497.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Source Code Release</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00409.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Source Code Release</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00518"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00518"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Source Code Release</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00407" HREF="msg00407.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Source Code Release</A></strong>, Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Wed 11 Feb 1998, 21:16 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00410" HREF="msg00410.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Source Code Release</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Thu 12 Feb 1998, 00:57 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00440" HREF="msg00440.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Source Code Release</A></strong>, Greg Munt <a href="mailto:greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk">greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk</a>, Thu 12 Feb 1998, 19:11 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00497" HREF="msg00497.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Source Code Release</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Mon 16 Feb 1998, 22:28 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00518" HREF="msg00518.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Source Code Release</A></strong>, Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Wed 18 Feb 1998, 04:42 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00409" HREF="msg00409.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Source Code Release</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Thu 12 Feb 1998, 00:51 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00439" HREF="msg00439.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Source Code Release</A></strong>, Greg Munt <a href="mailto:greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk">greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk</a>, Thu 12 Feb 1998, 19:10 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00445" HREF="msg00445.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Source Code Release</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Fri 13 Feb 1998, 00:48 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00454" HREF="msg00454.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Source Code Release</A></strong>, Greg Munt <a href="mailto:greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk">greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk</a>, Sat 14 Feb 1998, 00:10 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>