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<LI><em>From</em>: Vadim Tkachenko &lt;<A HREF="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</A>&gt;</LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 20:45:58 -0600</LI>
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Hi,

Header is broken, I quote it - hope this helps to fix the problem

mud-dev#null,net wrote:
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&gt; Newsgroups: rec.games.mud.admin
&gt; Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:59:41 PST8PDT
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&gt; From:  J C Lawrence &lt;claw#under,engr.sgi.com&gt;
&gt; To:  mud-dev#null,net
&gt; Subject: [MUD-Dev]  (fwd) Varying Time Commitment Levels: what's an admin to do?
&gt; 
&gt; &lt;&lt;Jay/Cimri has been invited to the list, but I haven't checked yet to
&gt; see if he's a member yet&gt;&gt;
&gt; 
&gt; Comments please:
&gt; 
&gt; From: cimri &lt;cimri1#gte,net&gt;
&gt; Newsgroups: rec.games.mud.admin
&gt; Subject: Varying Time Commitment Levels: what's an admin to do?
&gt; Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:27:33 -0800
&gt; 
&gt; Hey all,
&gt; 
&gt; What do you do, or should you do, if anything, about the people who
&gt; can play 10-15 hours every day vs those who can spend maybe 1-2 hours
&gt; a day playing your MUD?

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&gt; Why not have a couple of different muds with different time limits
&gt; on them?  I mean, the 'hour a day' mud and the '20 hour a week' mud
&gt; and the 'all-out frequent-flyer get a life? mudding IS life!' mud.
&gt; Players could play in any they wished, but would be restricted to
&gt; total time spent in the first two muds.  Then if you don't like the
&gt; idea of bonehead the mudder somehow 'getting ahead' of you by
&gt; playing all day and night, then you go into the hour a day or
&gt; other limited mud.
&gt; 
&gt; Well, that's that!  Comments?

This immediately triggers the memories of The Rock, now deceased, which
had the turn limit per day. The rule for the limit wasn't quite fair -
the more you play, the higher is a limit, but the very idea I liked -
because, as you noticed, addicts really do have an advantage.

It's difficult to determine who's addict and who's not - say, would I
have had more time, I'd play more, probably, and it happens that, say,
today I have just 30 minutes to spare, tomorrow it's 8 hours.

What I would suggest is to introduce something like the aging - the more
you play, the more difficult it becomes for you to advance - and it
looks good in-character, I believe. Of course, this is just a raw idea.
And, other idea was to allow some free time and make the players pay for
the rest, and there were more - here we have Sauron, who was close to
the development team and probably will tell much more about the proposed
solutions than I can.

&gt; Jay // Cimri

-- 
Still alive and smile stays on,
Vadim Tkachenko &lt;vt#freehold,crocodile.org&gt;
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UNIX _is_ user friendly, he's just very picky about who his friends are

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<LI><STRONG>META: topic and thread culling (was Re: [MUD-Dev] Balancing Addicts -&gt; soft vs. hard enforcement )</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00742" HREF="msg00742.html">META: topic and thread culling (was Re: [MUD-Dev] Balancing Addicts -&gt; soft vs. hard enforcement )</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Tue 17 Mar 1998, 19:43 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00725" HREF="msg00725.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Balancing Addicts</A></strong>, 
Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Mon 16 Mar 1998, 20:54 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00740" HREF="msg00740.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] (no title) Time limits?</A></strong>, 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00721" HREF="msg00721.html">[MUD-Dev]  Turn-based MU*'s</A></strong>, 
Sauron <a href="mailto:dlove#kusd,kusd.edu">dlove#kusd,kusd.edu</a>, Mon 16 Mar 1998, 00:39 GMT
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