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<LI><em>To</em>: Katrina McClelan <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: Travis Casey <<A HREF="mailto:efindel#polaris,net">efindel#polaris,net</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 07:21:44 -0500</LI>
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On Monday, 23 February 98, Katrina wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Feb 1998 coder#ibm,net wrote:
>> Nope, the core problem with implementing curses support in the MUD server
>> is terminal definition. In the classical case this was not a problem as
>> the terminal type was defined by the application's environment ($TERM,
>> terminfo, termcap and company). These resources and that definition
>> ability are not available for a client connecting directly to a port on a
>> server.
> They are as much as it is connecting to port 23 is on a UNIX box. The
> telnet protocol is supposed to be able to pass term type (TELOPT_TTYPE ==
> 24). I agree that some telnet programs are quite stupid about this.
> However it's not too hard to find a client that works sanely in this regard.
>> How does the server know what terminal type the remote client is
>> emulating?
> see above. You query it.
>> Many telnet clients very poorly or partially implement even
>> the VT-* terminal types.
> See above.
[more similar complaints and answers cut]
It should be noted as well that telnet is the closest we've got to a
universal mud client right now -- thus, getting a better telnet will
not only help the user with your mud, but with just about any mud that
he/she decides to play on.
Indeed, a better telnet client can help with things entirely unrelated
to muds, for those of us who want/need to be able to get a command
line on a machine we work or play on from home.
Lastly, should a mud need certain telnet features, it's not too hard
to seek out a good client for the two popular platforms (Mac and
Windows -- Unix usually comes with a fairly good telnet already) and
link to it from your mud's web site.
Heck, the first thing I do on almost any Windows machine I get is
install CRT -- my personal favorite Windows telnet program.
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00529" HREF="msg00529.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients</A></strong>,
Nathan F Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Thu 19 Feb 1998, 01:28 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00675" HREF="msg00675.html">VEIL (was: Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients)</A></strong>,
Brandon Gillespie <a href="mailto:brandon#roguetrader,com">brandon#roguetrader,com</a>, Tue 03 Mar 1998, 12:26 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00556" HREF="msg00556.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00571" HREF="msg00571.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients</A></strong>,
Katrina McClelan <a href="mailto:kitkat#directcheck,aries.net">kitkat#directcheck,aries.net</a>, Tue 24 Feb 1998, 04:44 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00621" HREF="msg00621.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients</A></strong>,
Travis Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#polaris,net">efindel#polaris,net</a>, Fri 27 Feb 1998, 12:22 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00756" HREF="msg00756.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Thu 19 Mar 1998, 00:08 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00549" HREF="msg00549.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients</A></strong>,
Greg Munt <a href="mailto:greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk">greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk</a>, Sat 21 Feb 1998, 11:47 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00550" HREF="msg00550.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients</A></strong>,
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org">matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Sat 21 Feb 1998, 13:30 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00552" HREF="msg00552.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients</A></strong>,
Stephen Zepp <a href="mailto:zoran#enid,com">zoran#enid,com</a>, Sat 21 Feb 1998, 18:38 GMT
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