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<PRE>
Mud-Dev FAQ

Last modified: 1 Feburary 1998

1. Frequently Asked Questions
2. Previous Topics
3. The Members
4. Resources
5. Glossary

Please email any corrections, suggestions or constructive criticisms
to Ling, elkll#student,lboro.ac.uk.

Changes:

980201 -- More bios, more addresses for the resource section.

980107 -- Added a few more questions.  Previous topics now has its own
universe as suggested by Adam Wiggins.  Plonked in a resources
section.  Took out standard technical terms as suggested by Adam
Wiggins.

971201 -- FAQ created.

To Do:  

  Conventions of example scenarios (Bubba, Boffo, Buffy, etc)

  List of references for specific scenarios/docs (Bungle/Habitat/Great
  God GooGoo, Crystalline Tree, recognising Sting in the weapons shop,
  etc).

  Solutions for the scenarios?

  Obtain addresses for the muds in the resource section.

  Subscription instructions.

  Statement of topic definition (cf welcome message).

  Suggested invitation message.

Acknowledgments:

  Everyone on the list who contributed with a bio, everyone on the
list who posts and special thanks to Jon A. Lambert, Adam Wiggins,
Nathan Yospe and lastly but definitely not the least, J C Lawrence.



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
			1. Frequently Asked Questions



1. What should I do now I have joined?

If you have not already, please read the rec.games.mud.* FAQs to
familiarise yourself with all the different sorts of muds out there:t
&lt;URL:<A  HREF="http://www.cs.okstate.edu/~jds/mudfaqs.html">http://www.cs.okstate.edu/~jds/mudfaqs.html</A>&gt;.

Next, lurk for a few days to a week to get the gist of what is going
on.  Chip in when you think you have something relevant to say or
perhaps start up a new thread on something you want to talk about.


2. What is the accepted standard for posting?

In short: No more than 80 columns wide, and only use 7bit ASCII.  If
you are posting from a country/language which uses "special"
characters, such as with umlauts or other diacritical marks, then
please ensure that your mailer properly MIME wraps them.  Most modern
mailers will do this properly.

MIME, HTML, RichText and similar are discouraged.  This encludes
"vcard" attachments from NetScape mail and similar.  Small MIME
attachments, such as a graphic used to illustrate a point discussed in
the text of a message are acceptable.  The guiding rule is that the
brunt of the value of a message must always be in the text.

A reply to another posting must have at least the name of the original
author if your mailer does not automatically prepend one, eg:

  [Bubba]
  &gt;On  4 Jan 98 at 22:20, Boffo wrote:
  &gt;&gt; Buffy &lt;Buffy#players-r-us,com&gt; wrote:
  &gt;&gt;&gt; I just found a cool mud at &lt;URL:<A  HREF="http://web.mud.com">http://web.mud.com</A>&gt;
  &gt;&gt;
  &gt;&gt; Golly Gosh!  Cover me in eggs and flour and bake me for 40 minutes!

These are commonly referred to on the list as "attributions".

Web pages are usually referenced in angled brackets as above.  

When quoting a log from a game, put at least two spaces at the start
of each line so that when it is quoted it does not become confused
with other conversation text:

--&lt;example&gt;--
I have a maze in my game:

  &gt; look
  You are in a maze of twistly little passages, all alike.

Isn't it neat?
--&lt;example&gt;--

Will be quoted as:

--&lt;example&gt;--
&gt;I have a maze in my game:
&gt;
&gt;  &gt; look
&gt;  You are in a maze of twistly little passages, all alike.
&gt;
&gt;Isn't it neat?
--&lt;example&gt;--

Use a bit of common sense when quoting.  Include enough of the
original message to make sense; no more or less.  Avoid quoting an
entire post with a one line reply (btw, one line replies are bad :).

Also, don't be afraid to change the subject heading to something more
relevant if the topic has strayed somewhat (usually happens to most
threads).  

Oh yeah, and a sensibly sized signature.


3. What is meant by high signal to noise ratio?

The noisy postings include messages which essentially say "I agree!"
and add no extra value, or those that do not relate to the purpose of
the list (like what you had for dinner, how your codebase/driver is
clearly superior to all others in existence and why language such and
such is better than such and such).  Try to keep on topic and you
won't go wrong.  However, the list is infamous for long postings which
start with one topic and end up rambling on about something else
completely different towards the end.  But so long as it is regarding
muds...


4. I just made a post about such and such but no one responded to it!

There could be several reasons why no one has answered to your
posting.  If it was to start a new thread, it could have been that the
topic has just recently been discussed.  Try waiting a while before
bring it back up again.  If it was in answer to a current thread,
other list members will have read it but just might not have anything
to say on that point right then.  


5. What's all this Bubba business?

Bubba, Boffo, Buffy and friends are all typical mud players bred for
test scenarios devised by various list members.  Originally procreated
by J C Lawrence (how, I don't wish to know), they have since come into
widespread use amongst the mud usenet groups (much to J C's amusement).


6. Aaargh!  The traffic is too much!

Perhaps switching to the daily digest mode would help?  Please refer
to your invitation for the appropriate information.


7. Any laws I should abide by before I get in trouble?

Yes, please try not to mention this list on anything publically
accessible like web pages, anonymous ftp, usenet or other mailing
lists.  


8. How do I access the archives?

Currently the list is archived on a monthly basis.  The archives are
text files containing all the traffic for the list for each month.
They are large (2meg - 3Meg is common).  If you'd like to chase up an
old thread, or to see what has been discussed before, email the list
owner (coder#null,net) with a subject of "MUD-Dev Archive Request" and
a short message detailing what you want.



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
			2. Previous Topics



Here's a list of practically all the topics discussed on the list's
creation (early traffic may be missing):

Server design:
 Affects vs. spoofs
 Security concerns of spoofs
 Component based bodies vs. aggregate bodies vs. atomic bodies
 Rooms vs. coordinate spaces vs. mixed forms of the two
 Methods of handling coordinate spaces: neighborhoods, tree forms
 R-Trees, R*-Trees, 3d arrays, Quad/Oct trees 
 Automated population containers
 Event models
 Internal process models
 Security models
 Multi-threaded server design [conflicts resolution?]
 Database design for a server
 Use of transactional databases in a MUD server
 How to avoid resets
 Parsing systems, and language development tools
 Design of internal MUD languages
 Variations on event-driven design
 Disk vs. memory based designs for MUD servers
 IO Socket efficiencies.
 Telnet protocol and terminal emulation
 Design of Object IDs and Object ID recycling
 Artificial probability systems
 Virtual rooms, virtual objects, virtual mobiles
 Sending mail from within a mud server
 String handling and memory
 Verb handling - global vs. local vs. mixed
 Generic objects
 Object assemblies
 Collision detection
 Client scripting and scripting prevention
 Graphical interfaces
 Must have books for programmers
 Web vs. Telnet

Game design:
 Classes of players and what they want from a game
 Levels vs. level-less vs. abstracted levels vs. level-comparatives
 Keeping a goal progression without levels
 Handling of character inventory and representation of inventory
 Families and their impacts on clans, multi-charring, and tactics
 Character senses, representation and extension
 Re-usable quests or plotlines
 Generic quest creation systems
 Rumor systems, handling rumor propagation, and rumor decay
 Races
 Placement of characters in the MUD-world predator totem-pole
 Handling of character death as an in-game event
 Perma-death vs. resurrection
 Economic systems (and lessons learnt by prior experiments)
 Energy-style ecologies and economies
 Ecologies for MUD worlds
 Inter-player communication systems
 Perceived danger levels for characters
 NPC AI, goal-oriented NPCs, intelligently automating NPCs
 Player characters as NPCs/monsters
 Nutrition
 Wounds and trauma systems
 Combat systems (round based, no rounds, interactive, etc.)
 Combat messages
 Combat scripting and action
 Dynamic descriptions and perception
 Views on the "undead"
 User command interface design
 All about bows, longbows, crossbows, etc.
 Festivals and in-game mud games
 Supporting both RPers and GOPers
 Virtual chemistry/alchemy
 In-game political and social structures 
 Implementing mundane professions (or Nation of Shopkeepers)
 Methods of integrating PK (coexistence with non-PK)
 Handling poison and disease
 Inebriation and drugs
 Dragons - a number of viewpoints
 Spoken and written languages  
 Food - interesting or irritating
 Starting characters or creating characters
 Amalgamud specification document
 Alignment vs. reputation 
 Character positions and rank point system
 Automatic name generation
 Learning and skill progression  
 Classless systems and profession-based systems
 Physics and the mud universe
 Hard sci-fi vs. science fantasy
 Character places of their own
 Character henchmen and servants 
 Thieves - ideas  
 Allowing players to affect the world
 Group play and group dynamics
 Spells and spell-casting systems 
 Characters - heroes, nobodies, or prey species
 Game balance
 Hive minds
 Traps and riddle lists
 Representing character stats - numeric, descriptive and graphic
 Settings for mud worlds
 List members' inspirational fantasy and sci-fi books
 Handling and building of large trackless areas
 Gods and deity systems

Mud Administration/Philosophy
 Lorry's document on wizarding
 The morality of logging and snooping
 Problems with socializers
 Social control and engineering
 Dealing with "problem" players
 Is the virtual world real?
 Gender issues
 Bartle's mud papers
 The purpose of mudding
 Motivating builders and coders
 Role-play vs. Game-Only Play discussion
 PK vs. Non-PK discussions
 The infamous rape discussion 
 Habitat papers and anecdotes
 Overriding players' control of the character 

[courtesy of Jon A. Lambert]



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
			    3. The Members



Below is not the complete list of members but it does give a good
picture of a small and active cross section.  Feel free to post any
corrections or additions to the maintainer.

			--------oOOOo--------
Travis S Casey

Occupation: Unix sysadmin
Address: casey#nu,cs.fsu.edu
Personal details:
	- Started in '89 on a Tiny variant.
	- Really started in '93 on MudDog (LP).
	- Accidently wizzed on SWmud (LP).
	- Erratic development of a cyberpunk mud.
	- Contributed some to the Lima LP mudlib.
	- FAQ maintainer for rec.games.design.
	- Married with two cats.

Signature:
       |\      _,,,---,,_        Travis S. Casey  &lt;casey#cs,fsu.edu&gt;
 ZZzz  /,`.-'`'    -.  ;-;;,_   No one agrees with me.  Not even me.
      |,4-  ) )-,_..;\ (  `'-'
     '---''(_/--'  `-'\_)
  rec.games.design FAQ: <A  HREF="http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~casey/design.html">http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~casey/design.html</A>

			--------oOOOo--------
Matt Chatterley

Occupation: Student.
Location: England.
Addresses: neddy#itl,net
           caffeine#unreal,org
           root#mpc,dyn.ml.org
Personal details:
	- Main interests are game design (theoretical), and ways to change
	    things that are (tm) into things that should be (patent pending).
	- Occasional cynic, and critic of online gaming environments.

Server: Caffeine (LP)
Signature:
Regards,
	-Matt Chatterley
	ICQ: 5580107
"We can recode it; we have the technology."

			--------oOOOo--------
Reed Copsey, Jr.

Occupation: 
	- Whatever I find at the time (Usually programming or database 
	  administration or setup)
Addy: rdc#efn,org
Personal details:
	- Too damn busy to do anything
	- Spends lots of time lurking here, and unfortunately doesn't
	  participate nearly as much as he should and would like to
	- Basically a self-taught programmer who spends more time
	  tinkering and coming up with different ways of doing things
	  than getting anything productive written
	- Is always trying to figure out the best (and cheapest, as he's
	  currently way in debt) way to learn just about anything he can
	  get his hands on

Secret Server Project:
	- Kolmteist
Server Highlights:
	[ Note: This is mostly in design phase.  I very recently decided
	  on a complete rewrite for both the server and the client, so all 
	  that's left that is at all useful is some basic utility-type 
	  classes: socket handling, data structures, string handling, etc... ]

	- Written in C++
	- Uses a relational database backend, though total persistence 
	  is not (yet) a major goal (though this has changed many times 
	  as he comes up with new arguments for or against it)
	- Completely event driven
	- Object customization through an internal extension language
		- Current design (which will probably last another week 
		  *snicker*) is actually inspired by MS Access (yuck),
		  with simple extensions being written as very straight forward,
		  macros on any object, which have the ability to call 
		  user-written procedures, hopefully allowing some semblance
		  of flexibility in a roundabout way
		- Hoping to allow players to use the same macro interface
		  in a stripped down manner to allow for a fairly high
		  degree of player-customization and automation (see below)
	- A significantly slower-than-average combat system which is 
	  completely unautomated unless macros are used... (Roughly turn
	  based from the player's POV, with a turn/round once every few 
	  seconds, the avg fight lasting 1-4 minutes)
	- Completely disassociation, both in code and in game, of players and
	  wizards/imms. (builder/administration have no direct in-game form)
	- A custom client required for various reasons:
		- direct path (completely bypasses the game server) to the
		  relational database backend, allowing building
		  and game administration even if the mud is down or the 
		  builder doesn't want to deal with people
		- more flexibility in display to allow better-than-ansi color
		  and text handling parsed client side, inline images, and
		  some html-ish functionality similar (and inspired by)
		  various mud extensions chaco add in pueblo (point and click
		  commands, etc)
		- the ability to spawn multiple windows (crucial)
		   - Will have an account style login, with menu's to choose
		     which character(s) to play, each of which spawns a separate
		     window.
		   - All out of character communication, information, etc will
		     be directed to the account window (or a private chat-style
		     window spawned for private, ooc communication)
		   - the hope is to encourage roleplaying by complete separation
		     of VR and non-VR commands, both in the commands (without
	 	     using a special character like $, @, or #) and in output

Signature:
-- Reed

			--------oOOOo--------
Marc Eyrignoux

Occupation: Student
Address: eyrignou#efrei,fr
Location: Paris, Toulouse (both in France)
Personal details:
	- 21 years old
	- Role player
	- Attempting to code a mud with friends (for school, for entertainment
	    and for improving in programing)

Server design:
	- in C++
	- using a relational database (surely MySQL)
	- under Linux RedHat 5.0
	- multi-threaded, event driven
	- still only in project phase
	- 1 world: small basic medieval-fantastic world, with basic races
	    like elves, humans, orks...
	- trying to promote the roleplay aspect of the game, with (hopefully)
	    a quest generator for not having to rewrite another quest every
	    day.

Client design:
	- in Java, graphic oriented
	- the most intelligent as possible, but not as much as Nathan's one

			--------oOOOo--------
Chris Gray

Occupation: Programmer (UNIX?)
Address: cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Personal details:
	- Never really played a MUD other than his own (bar 4 hours on Northern
	    Crossroads, and some LP experimenting)
	- Old enough to be the father of most of you, so his perspectives
	    might be quite different
	- Done very little RPG-ing, but a fair amount of Adventure gaming
	- Thinks the Web and C++ suck big time! (shocking!)
	- Studied programming languages for AI at Alberta.  Attempted to
	    implement a language called ALAI (A Language for Artificial
	    Intelligence - original, huh?) but got bogged down.
	- Taught computer architecture, programming languages, and adaptive
	    information systems for the department instead.
	- Started but never finished PhD in required internal features for
	    multi-user protected OSes (at Alberta!)
	- Creator of programming language 'Draco' for CP/M, later ported to
	    Amiga/68k.
	- CP/M version of Draco still in Simtel.  Docs managed to end up in a
	    McGraw-Hill book without any permission!
	- Worked with Myrias, a parallel computer company.
	- Wrote Myrias' ANSI C compiler.
	- And Amiga Empire (rewrite of Empire, in Draco of course!)
	- Heard about MUDs and wrote a quick and dirty AmigaDUM.
	- Myrias went bust two months later (no connection!).
	- Now works with the remnants of Myrias which has been brought back to
	    life.
	- After 6+ yrs, AmigaDUM it is now called AmigaMUD and can be found on
	    Aminet (v1.1).
	- AmigaMUD currently runs at mud.myrias.com 23 (normal telnet)

Signature:
Chris Gray   cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA

			--------oOOOo--------
Marian Griffith (De Vries Griffith to be more precise)

Addresses: gryphon#iaehv,nl
Web page: &lt;<A  HREF="http://www.iaehv.nl/users/gryphon">http://www.iaehv.nl/users/gryphon</A>&gt;
	- Lots of information on the !Overlord project.  An attempt to collect
	    ideas to improve on muds but does not aim at any finished product.
Interests:
	- Interest in roleplaying and game world building but will talk about
	    anything ;) (except for pk because there's nothing to be added that
	    hasn't been said many times already)

Signature:
Marian
--
Yes - at last - You. I Choose you. Out of all the world,
out of all the seeking, I have found you, young sister of
my heart! You are mine and I am yours - and never again
will there be loneliness ...

Rolan Choosing Talia,
Arrows of the Queen, by Mercedes Lackey

			--------oOOOo--------
Michael Hohensee

Occupation: Part time student?
Addresses: michael#sparta,mainstream.net
Personal details:
	-  17 yrs of age during March '97

Server: AeMud - Arbitrarily Expandable MUD
Server concepts/features:
	-  Written in C.
	-  Treats all objects equally for certain common uses.
	-  A spiffy and mostly efficient memory-allocation/recycling system.
	    (Which may actually be kinda pointless, but it was interesting to
	    code)
	-  A command queue that is used equally by players and computer-driven
	    objects.
	-  Highlights include interactive portals and simulation of liquids.

Signature:
Michael Hohensee       michael#sparta,mainstream.net
<A  HREF="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/9025/">http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/9025/</A>
      Finger me for my PGP Public Key, or use:
<A  HREF="http://sparta.mainstream.net/michael/pgpkey.txt">http://sparta.mainstream.net/michael/pgpkey.txt</A>

			--------oOOOo--------
Derrick Jones

Addresses: gunther#online1,magnus1.com
Location: Maryland, Baltimore, MD, USA

Signature:
Gunther

			--------oOOOo--------
Raph Koster

Occupation: Lead designer for Ultima Online, for Origin Systems
Location: Austin TX
Addresses: rkoster#origin,ea.com
Personal details:
	- Creative director of mud (not actually director of UO).
	- Married to fellow mud designer Kristen Koster, also list member.
	- One kid, another on the way.
	- BA in English (creative Writing) and in Spanish (Literature), and a
	    Master of Fine Arts in Creative Writing.
	- Age 26.
	- Particularly interested in social evolution in virtual environments,
	    and related issues such as administration of said environments,
	    methods of social control, user awareness of social context, etc.
	- Game and server features that contribute to the above.
	- Most everything Mike Sellers listed off ;) such as ecological sim
	    layers, Maslow, etc :)

Server: LegendMUD, known on there as Ptah
	&lt;<A  HREF="http://mud.sig.net">http://mud.sig.net</A>&gt;
	&lt;<A  HREF="telnet://mud.sig.net:9999">telnet://mud.sig.net:9999</A>&gt;
	- Used to run lectures often of interest to the mudding community.
Server concepts/features:
	- Has evolved into a weird hybrid of LP and Diku.
Game concepts/features:
	- First classless mud.
	- Probably the first historical theme gaming mud.
	- Attempt to provide a truly fictional immersion, from detailed
	    hand-designed questing, to carefully crafted and well-written
	    areas, to output designed to read like prose (see the speech
	    system for an example of what I mean - adverb support, etc etc).
	- Word-based spell system (it doesn't work, wasn't pushed far enough
	    into the realm of spell language).

Server: Ultima Online, known there as "Designer Dragon"
	&lt;<A  HREF="http://www.owo.com">http://www.owo.com</A>&gt;
Game concepts/features:
	- World simulation.
	- Maslow-based AI system for ecological sim and for basic human
	    activity (NPC moods, etc)
	- Pool-based conversation system.
	- Economic sim layer.
	- Social control mechanisms (notoriety, etc).
	- Dynamic modular quest system.
Noteable facts:
	- Appears to be the first big mass market persistent world that really
	    breaks through and establishes the genre as a commercially viable
	    one.
	- Pretty controversial, plagued with all sorts of problems from day
	    one, reviews range from stellar to in the toilet. ;)

Signature:
-Raph

			--------oOOOo--------
Jon A. Lambert

Occupation: contract programmer for 12 years, primarily mainframe DBA
Addresses: jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com
Web page: &lt;<A  HREF="http://www.netcom.com/~jlsysinc">http://www.netcom.com/~jlsysinc</A>&gt;
Personal details:
	- Former BBS operator - C64 and later DOS, ran many mud-like games.
	- Occasional player on funny little Compuserve mud
	- Attempts to rationalize interest in muds as practical professional
	    education. :P
	- Player of paper &amp; pencil games since mid-70s... primarily early
	    D&amp;D, RoleMaster, Vampyre, Warhammer and Cyberpunk
	- Favorite Computer Games - Tradewars, Civilization, Simcity, Hammurabi,
	    Empire, Railroad Tycoon...Ok just about anything design by Sid Meir
	- Age - Too old to rock-n-roll, too young too die.
	- Favorite color - blue
	- Favorite character - Odysseus Laertes of Ithaca

Secret Project: TychoMud
Mud theme:
	- Greek city states - synthesis of historical period 2500-200 BC with
	    unique interpretations of popular and lesser known mythologies.
	    Game physics, sciences and medical lore almost wholly based on
	    Plato's wacky universe. Yes, water does flow upward, at least
	    through the hole in middle of Earth.
Alternate Themes:
	- Original FRPG campaign world.
	- Dark postmodern theme.
Server concepts/features:
	- Complete persistent objects backed by transactional relational
	    database
		- Event driven and multi-threaded
		- Graphical interface to text-based game
	- Object-oriented concurrent stack-based mud programming language
	    (a twisted genetic mutation of Rexx, Java and Ada)
	- Graphical user/builder component-level programming/building
Game concepts/features:
	- Game system based on RoleMaster FRPG - skill driven system
	- Heavy roleplay single account - multi-PC, NPC, or
	    gamemaster/storyteller
		- Deistic intervention (always IC), capricious and encouraged
		    Direct
		- Deistic programmed control of in-game systems (solar, lunar,
		    climate, oceans, etc.)
	- Realistic flora and fauna ecologies (reset/repop - thou shalt not)
	- Resource driven economies Social, political and economic driven game
	- Magic rare and equipment poor
    	- Realistic professions

Signature:
Jon A. Lambert

			--------oOOOo--------
JC Lawrence

Notes:

  MUD-Dev list owner.

  All postings written as list owner are identified as such.

Occupation: 

  Contract programmer for 15+ years, ex-school teacher, printer,
  sailor, fisherman and other sundries, small time SF&amp;F writer,
  dinosaur, philosopher.  Self taught.

Addresses: 

  claw#null,net (work)
  coder#ibm,net (home)
  Please use these in preference to all other addresses.

Personal details:
  
  Started MUDding in '84 on Shades, SX MUD (MUD1/MUD2), and still
  heavily influenced by same.  Was a part of the IOWA project with
  Pip Caudrey.  Been working on a MUD server on and off since '85.
  Major inspirations in chronological order: Shades, MUD2,
  Transputers, Marcus Ranum, Uber, Unter, LP, Aber, Tiny*, Northern
  Lights, MOO, Stephen White, LambdaMOO, a large bunch of IBM's OS/2
  developers, Cool, Interlude (neat!), Dave Engberg, C++, Cold, Mike
  Cowlishaw, Legend, ColdX, Greg Hudson, MUQ, BeOS, Inferno, Limbo.
  Self-educated in pure math, english literature and religious
  philosophy.

Server: 

  Unnamed, but last referred to as "Murkle".  There are several
  increasingly sarcastic acronymic expansions of "murkle" that are
  left up to the reader to discover.

Server features:

  Written in C++.  Compleatly persistent world achieved by
  transactional persistant store.  Event driven heavily
  multi-threaded lockless server design.  OO internal programming
  language ala Python/C.  Server has no prior knowledge of the game
  mechanics it is hosting.  DB (persistant store) is disk based and
  contains a full rollback feature for crash recovery, bug hunting
  and logging.  Same rollbacks allow for limited time travel by
  users.  Free user programming allowed.  No logical difference
  between mobiles, NPCs, and players.  Players may control multiple
  bodies simultaneously.  Swarm-type bodies as possible.  Players are
  heavily abstracted from their characters, which are heavily
  abstracted from their character bodies.  Players connect to
  accounts, from which they select characters to play, which in turn
  control bodies.  Thous shalt not repop, and thou shalt not reset.
  No global namespace in game, players and characters all have
  individual private namespaces.  

Game features:

  Particle based energy-centric resource economy drives and limits
  the game world.  Magic is merely a side-effect of the particle
  economy.  Permadeath.  Free PK.  Extremely high magic world.  No
  particular interest in RP.  GoP-centric.  Players and mobiles may
  freely steal bodies from each other.  The goal is to re-attain
  godhood.  Resolution of control from body toward player is
  generally not possible.  Violently fluid programmable combat where
  very minor items and affects can be devastating.  Skill webs.  No
  real levels.  A human should never have to wait for a machine --
  there is no waiting.  Heavy use of unstable positive feedback loops
  for populations and NPC behaviours.  

Scenarios:

  Bubba and the Crystalline Tree

  The Great God GooGoo and his holy relics

  Castle Krack, the Elven Forest, and the Sceptre

  UggUgg's mana fight

  Orc breeder/fighter/nobles

  Mobile population migrations

  A farcical justice system

  Trash collectors (TC's)

  Bubba digging the Panama Canal

  ...many others...

Signature: 

  J C Lawrence                               Internet: claw#null,net
  ----------(*)                              Internet: coder#ibm,net
  ...Honourary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith...

Comment:

  If you were around on MirrorWorld or Pip's Place you should
recognise the wand in the signature.

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Jon Leonard

Occupation: Chip designer
Location:  Mountain View, California
Address: jleonard#slimy,com
Web Page: &lt;<A  HREF="http://www.slimy.com/~jleonard/">http://www.slimy.com/~jleonard/</A>&gt;
Personal details:
	- Started MUDing as a freshman in college on the LPmud at
	    fenris.claremont.edu.  I took over admin of it and played
	    with the server source code until I determined that it would
	    be easier to start from scratch to get what I wanted.  This took
	    a few years.
	- mostly a lurker on the list
	- I'm paying for a full-time net connection, so I can host my
	    MUD, or any other interesting MUDs.

Server: Qxhrptrwzzllp't
	&lt;<A  HREF="telnet://slimy.com:2121">telnet://slimy.com:2121</A>&gt;
	This is a completely from-scratch design, which at this point is
	mostly a lisp-like interpreter with a partially written mudlib
	running on it.

Signature:

Jon Leonard

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Kam Ling Lo (prefers Ling)

Occupation: Electronic &amp; electrical engineering student, will probably
              specialise in either digital communications, microprocessor
              design or EMC.  Or all three. :)
Addresses: K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk (or elkll@ for short)
Personal details:
	- Year of the Dragon and 21!
	- Knows far too much about cars and planes (due to over exposure from
	    bods of appropriate courses).
	- All the computery stuff is self taught.
	- Thinks gameplay is not emphasised enough on the list.
	- Going for the purple hair and green eyes look.
	- Heavily sci-fi orientated.  Influences include all C64 and Amiga games
	    past, various books, cartoons, especially those with 'mechs in them.
	- Strategy games, although there isn't a game out there deep enough to
	    keep him amused for more than a day.
	- Somehow managed to accumulate knowledge of various paper games no one
	    else has ever heard of (eg: Air Eaters Strike Back!)
	- Pet interests include artificial life and graphic novels.
	- Extremely critical of computer games (very few games get rated good).
	- Dislikes things by Sid Meir. :P
	- Only non-athlete in England's sports University (bit of a bummer).
	- Keeps changing projects and will probably go for a PBeM (upset over
	    time problems in muds).

Server: Renaissance (LP)
Server concepts/features:
	- Undergoing a massive overhaul right now.  Utterly gutted.
	- Switching from the tradition view that the connection controls a body
            in the game to the connection controls a soul which directs the
	    body.  Oughta credit JC Lawrence one day for inspiration/blatant
	    rip-off.
	- This design should eliminate a few design problems and further
	    minimise creators cheating by forcing creators to code only when
	    disconnected from the body.
	- Aiming to release the mudlib towards the autumn of '98.
	- Yes, that is its only redeeming feature.

Server: Vague (Cold)
	- Not even started.  Still learning the ColdC.
Server concepts/features:
	- Using ColdC, see their homepage &lt;<A  HREF="http://www.cold.org">http://www.cold.org</A>&gt;.
Game concepts/features:
	- Meat of the mud is not remotely mud-like in the traditional sense.
	- Players direct a team of agents on a series of missions, for each
	    mission a 1km x 1km world will be generated.
	- Game will be turn based with a time limit for the player to input
	    their moves.
	- Players perceive the game world through the eyes of their agents,
	    text descriptions will be generated on the fly.

Signature: [The fish stays no matter what]
  |    Kilo Lima Lima Oscar dash Niner Four, over and out.        ---o
_O_O_  Electronic and Electrical Division, Loughborough Corp.    &lt;+=+=+&gt;

			--------oOOOo--------
David Love (aka Sauron)

Occupation: Student
Address: dlove#kusd,kusd.edu
Personal details:
	- Worked as admin on ROCK 
	- Oldest of six children
	- Has a grasp on perl, expanding on C, trying to learn Java
	- Enjoys indulging in mindless hack &amp; slash off and on
	- Lover of the Final Fantasy series along w/ many console rpg's
	- Pastimes: arcade games, paper rpg's, ccg's, computer games (XvT 
	    and War2 among favorites), bbs-ing (anyone remember MajorMUD?)

Server: TWON, a slowly warping version of PennMUSH
Game concepts/features:
	- Attempt at a hybrid between the RP aspects of a MUSH and the
	    in-depth combat style of a MUD
	- Faction-based
	- Attempts at a working real-time combat system
MU* Theme: 
	- Attempts to be an epic war story

Signature:
-Sauron

			--------oOOOo--------
Greg Munt

I lurk too much. Partly due to being unemployed (maybe I should petition 
BT(*) for free local calls), being overwhelmed by list traffic, and partly 
due to the fact that I have been in New York for the past 3 or 4 months. Whilst
there, I got engaged to a Bahamian. Maybe my email address will swap a 'uk' for
a 'bs' soon (reasonably likely). At least local calls are free there. Grrr.

Found muds in early '94, in the form of a Tiny derivative, UglyMUG (one of 
the few muds on JANET(**)'s PAD network at that time). Left six months later to
join the administration of a derivative of Ugly. 18 months after that, was 
running it. 6 months after that, had been kicked out of the admin team, and 
banned - now bitter, twisted, and forever opposed to democratic muds. The 
so-called "Admin Wars" produced a satirical re-telling of Star Wars, 
where I was reduced to a dribbling figure, shivering over a VIC-20 and a 
2400 baud modem. (I kid you not.)

My 'real' experience has been working in COBOL/DB2 for British Steel. 
Currently I'm trying to use that to get a job. Alternatively I might 
have an opportunity as a Junior Games Programmer (with CodeMasters - 
possibly UK-only company? *shrug*)! Who said mudding was a waste of time? :)

Since selling the VIC-20 (*koff*), I hacked up a mud from scratch, and 
after six months produced "Frontiers". The website (at 
<A  HREF="http://www.uni-corn.demon.co.uk">http://www.uni-corn.demon.co.uk</A>) was produced - not by me, I hasten to 
add - in 6 days, and is infinitely better. It was around this time that I 
began reading rec.games.mud.admin, and Martin Keegan wandered onto 
Frontiers. (Read DejaNews for the results;)

Now, Frontiers has been closed down, and I have started anew. First 
efforts are always worst efforts - probably - but I learnt a lot from it, 
and continue to plod through. Current project is called "Ubiquity", and 
is, I am quite proud to announce, at the design stage (Frontiers started 
at the implementation stage *doh*). At the moment, it is nothing more 
than a BBS with talker extensions, but I plan to later turn that into an 
underlying command shell for a coordinate-based, all-singing, all-dancing 
mud (yes, I'm still working that bit out). The command shell idea was 
actually suggested (or I evolved it from one of his ideas, I can't 
quite remember) by Nathan Yospe, on this list. This time I am going 
slowly, working on the things I know about first, rather than tackling 
everything at once, and achieving nothing (see Frontiers).

                      Age: 24.
                   Height: 6'8 (which may be irrelevant - though it's always 
                           sort of relevant to people, when they meet me).
                    Likes: unconventional ideas.
                 Dislikes: the accepted norm (see DejaNews).
          Worst attribute: 50% of my time is spent planning; 5% of my 
                           time is spent carrying out those plans.
           Best attribute: Selfless, emotional.
 Best thing about my life: I'm so in love...
Worst thing about my life: ...with someone who lives thousands of miles away.
            Claim to fame: I once met Ling's brother. He compared me to 
                           John Lennon, which I still find amusing. 
                Signature: this one will become semi-permanent, I 
                           think. It almost illustrates my opinion of the world.
                           Ha - even my mother calls me arrogant, now.

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There is a 99% chance that I hate and despise your miserable little existence.

(*) British Telecommunications charge 1UKP/hour for local phone calls. Scowl.
(**) The Joint Academic NETwork - now forms the *.ac.uk part of the Internet.

			--------oOOOo--------
Alex Oren

Occupation: Programmer in a consulting firm.
Address: alexo#bigfoot,com

MUD Background:
	- AD&amp;D DM since '85.  Had a brief and fascinating encounter with an LP.
	- Got interested in OO MUD server design in '95.
	- Posted a request for help[*] (22-5-96) that started a correspondence
	    which later evolved into the "CC list".
	- Due to RL pressures reduced to lurking status.  The server,
	    unimplemented, now gathering dust in some obscure corner of my
	    mind.

Server concepts/features:
  Affects.

[*] <A  HREF="http://search.dejanews.com/msgid.xp?MID=">http://search.dejanews.com/msgid.xp?MID=</A>&lt;31a32684.293427796#news,ibm.net.il&gt;

			--------oOOOo--------
Mike Sellers

Occupation: Chief Creative Officer for The Big Network; Chief Alchemist of
Online Alchemy.  Okay, both of those are real titles, but they boil down to
being a game and game-world designer.  

Some previous occupations: creator of Meridian 59, user interface designer,
software engineer, animal fertility lab scientist, fantasy miniature
sculptor, movie extra (Apocalypse Now), and one-time circus roustabout.

Location: Pleasanton, California 
Address: mike#online-alchemy,com
Interests and Personal stuff:
 - Homeostatic mechanisms in world politics, ecologies, and economies
 - Maslovian-inspired AI for NPCs and mobiles
 - creation of strong communities online
 - creating games that provide a truly immersive experience
 - making online entertainment into a viable business
 - being happily married with six kids :-)

Signature du jour:

Mike Sellers   Chief Alchemist -- Online Alchemy   mike#online-alchemy,com

"One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others 
may despise it, is the invention of good games.  And it cannot be done 
by men out of touch with their instinctive values."  - Carl Jung

			--------oOOOo--------
Greg Underwood

Occupation: Foole  :P  Student, primarily, Simulation design Co-Op to pay
    the bills. (as a side note, I am probably one of the younger members of
    the list, weighing in at age 23)
Addresses: s001gmu#nova,wright.edu
Location: Dayton, Ohio, USA (yeah, the place where they had the Bosnia
    Peace Talks a couple years back).
Personal details:
	- Used to work on Diku/merc/rom derivatives, specifically Eternity of
	    Discord.  (the code base of which has survived in various forms
	    under a couple of of different names, which surprises the heck
	    out of me..  it sucks. :)
	- Currently working on a home-grown project with a friend who is
	    currently a lurker on the list.

Server concept/features:
	- Key features include event driver, object orientated nature of the
	    program, mSQL relational database for info management and non-io
	    specific, requiring specialised clients to transform data into
	    something more palatable.
Game concept/features:
	- The major foci of the project include a MUCH more realistic combat
	    model from Diku.  Key differences include combat between one
	    versus many results in one dead opponent v.quickly, usually.
	- Heavy magic world with well defined metaphysics, which defines the
	    physics of the world.
	- Primarily a numbers/resource management game, rp will be a side
	    effect due to the multi-player nature.
	- Pkill &amp; "permanent" deaths.
	- Player characters will include self-preservation code/instincts,
	    player can override instincts for complete control but without
	    overriding, can't get character to behave self-destructively.

Signature:
-Greg

			--------oOOOo--------
Adam Wiggins

Occupation: Lead programmer for Cinematix Studios, Inc
Location: Phoenix, Arizona, USA.
Address: nightfall#inficad,com
Personal details:
	- Primary interests for a mud are enhanced 'realism' and internal
	  consistency of the game world, mainly getting rid of all the
	  old kludges (hitpoints, experience, levels, classes, tell)
	  and creating a much more detailed and complex world.
	- Proponent of skill-based systems which encourage roleplaying
	  by making the charcter one plays act and respond as befitting
	  their race/temperment.

Server: Strife mud

Signature:
Adam

			--------oOOOo--------
Nathan F. Yospe

Occupation: Software engineer, writer, cartoonist.  (yes, really, all of these)
Addresses: yospe#hawaii,edu
Location: Hawaii
Personal details:
	- Interests in elements of solid state and materials science, and
	    biochem, specializing in molecular genetics and crossover areas
	    with biomedical science.
	- My goals are not particularly relevant to this list, aside from the
	    fact that I have written sucess at them into the ancient history
	    of my mud universe, by some anonymous other, fifty years after
	    I'll likely be dust. The goals: complete supplemental immune
	    system simulated by organic nanotechnology.

Server: Physmud++
Server concepts/features:
	- Mud built by first defining fundamental laws and then constructing the
	    world in a lego-like manner.
	- Functions as a client with a single server, every text transaction and
	    most decision-tree transactions are handled clientside and passed to
	    the server as tokened sequences.
	- Physmud++ has evolved in the time that I have been on this list, from
	    a Diku-like C++ mud to what it is today, completely unique.

Server: GURU
Server concepts/features:
	- Started 2.5 yrs ago, completion date of December 2002
	- Graphical, VR orientated, mass scale distributed fantasy world.
	- Designed from the world go for scaleability and most of the
	    innovations in Physmud++ are really those of the GURU, simplified
	    and tested in an environment that I can, peice at a time, actually
	    accomplish.

Signature:
"You? We can't take you," said the Dean, glaring at the Librarian.
"You don't know a thing about guerilla warfare." - Reaper Man,
Nathan F. Yospe  Registered Looney                   by Terry Pratchett
yospe#hawaii,edu   <A  HREF="http://www2.hawaii.edu/~yospe">http://www2.hawaii.edu/~yospe</A>           Meow



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				4. Resources



Anything notable and mud related that should be read/investigated.

Webpages:
  Marian Griffith's !Overlord project:
    &lt;URL:<A  HREF="http://www.iaehv.nl/users/gryphon">http://www.iaehv.nl/users/gryphon</A>&gt;
    Full of information useful to mud designer/admins.

  Lucasfilm's Habitat: 
    &lt;URL:<A  HREF="http://www.communities.com/company/papers/lessons.html">http://www.communities.com/company/papers/lessons.html</A>&gt;
    Detailed document about an ambitious graphical mud.

Muds:
  AmigaMUD: &lt;URL:<A  HREF="telnet://mud.myrias.com:23">telnet://mud.myrias.com:23</A>&gt;
    Chris Gray's sparsely populated mud.  Of note as he is a list
    member and this seems to be the only non-commercial member's mud
    currently available for public access.

  Armageddon:
    To my knowledge the ONLY truly successful full-bore RP environment
    based on a Diku-style server with full combat and the like. Often
    cited as such at any rate. [Raph K]

  Avalon, Gemstone, others:
    Commercial text muds. Avalon has an interesting newbie tutorial
    mode, and room description generation code that is nifty
    too. Gemstone was and prolly still is the most popular mud in the
    world, period. It evolved into DragonRealms. [Raph K]

  CoolMUD: &lt;URL:<A  HREF="http://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/u/sfwhite/coolftp">http://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/u/sfwhite/coolftp</A>&gt;
    Incredibly elegant server design. [JCL]

  DartMUD: &lt;URL:<A  HREF="telnet://dartmud.com:2525">telnet://dartmud.com:2525</A>&gt;
    A very ambitious LP mud with lots of good ideas which never seemed
    to have gelled together correctly.  Plenty of bugs.  A sequel is
    being worked on.

  Duris: &lt;URL:<A  HREF="telnet://duris.org:6666">telnet://duris.org:6666</A>&gt;
    A pk mud with economy?!

  LambdaMOO: &lt;URL:<A  HREF="http://vesta.physics.ucla.edu/~smolin/lambda/">http://vesta.physics.ucla.edu/~smolin/lambda/</A>&gt;
    One of the pages for this MOO.

  LegendMUD: &lt;URL:<A  HREF="telnet://mud.aus.sig.net:9999">telnet://mud.aus.sig.net:9999</A>&gt;
    The first classless mud, strange diku/LP hybrid.  See Raph
    Koster's bio.

  Medievia: &lt;URL:<A  HREF="telnet://medievia.intersphere.com:4000">telnet://medievia.intersphere.com:4000</A>&gt;
    The most popular free gaming mud I know of. Pioneered the use of
    things like in-game spam ads for themselves and lack of due credit
    given for code (:P) but also has things like ASCII map terrain,
    large algorithmically generated areas, etc. [Raph K] 

  MUD2: &lt;URL:<A  HREF="telnet://mud2.com:23">telnet://mud2.com:23</A>&gt;
        &lt;URL:<A  HREF="http://www.mud2.com">http://www.mud2.com</A>&gt;

  MUQ: &lt;URL:<A  HREF="http://www5.biostr.washington.edu/~jsp/muq.html">http://www5.biostr.washington.edu/~jsp/muq.html</A>&gt;

  Shades: &lt;URL:<A  HREF="telnet://games.world.co.uk:23">telnet://games.world.co.uk:23</A>&gt;

  Toril: &lt;URL:<A  HREF="telnet://torilmud.com:9999">telnet://torilmud.com:9999</A>&gt;
    One of two offshoots of Sojourn.

  Trash: &lt;URL:<A  HREF="http://games.world.co.uk">http://games.world.co.uk</A>&gt;
    Somewhere above with Shades.

  Tron: &lt;URL:<A  HREF="telnet://polaris.king.ac.uk:3000">telnet://polaris.king.ac.uk:3000</A>&gt;
    An out and out pk mud, more of an arcade game using ASCII maps than
    a mud in the conventional sense.  Not one for the faint hearted.
    Should you want a game but can't find anyone, drop me a bell.
    Start learning with disc or spider.  Be prepared to break your
    keyboard. [Ling]


Almost all the muds done by Owen Emlen have interesting design 
features to them too. (Aturion Dynasty, for example). [Raph K]

Entries needed for:

  AlphaWorlds
  ColdX
  Island
  M59
  MUD1
  Northern Lights
  Sojourn
  The IOWA project
  UOL
  Habitat (more)
  (that game I can't remember with the whities and the darkies)
  ...anything to add?

Not so mud related webpages:
  AI Nodes/ANN: &lt;URL:<A  HREF="http://206.107.246.21/packhste/5/">http://206.107.246.21/packhste/5/</A>&gt;
  R-Trees: &lt;URL:<A  HREF="http://www.cs.cuhk.hk/~drsam/methods.html">http://www.cs.cuhk.hk/~drsam/methods.html</A>&gt;


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			  5. Glossary of Terms



The list has managed to come up with its own jargon.  Here are some of
the current buzzwords:

Artificial life: Similar to artificial intelligence except the concept
  is to bestow individual components with rules or a program, such
  that the interaction of the various components will/should be more
  than the sum of the parts (emergent behaviour).

Cooperative role-playing: Refers to a specific kind of RP where each
  player's personal 'storyline' is paramount.  All players are aware
  of, and sensitive to, the needs of each player for their story, and
  all actions are completely consentual.  This is a type of play often
  found on MUSHes.

Event: A system design alternative to polling loops.  Objects generate
  events, which are processed in their proper order by the event
  handler.  This is frequently clearer and far more efficient,
  especially with large numbers of objects.  Examples are a torch
  generating an event to burn out in two hours, or a spell generating
  an event for an earthquake to occur in four seconds.

Fixed random seeding: Using a fixed value (such as a character's
  unique ID, or the character's position in XYZ space) to seed the
  random number generator, assuring that the same random number will
  always be rolled if the circumstances are exactly the same, but
  requiring no storage.  This allows parts of the world or its
  behaviours to be dynamically generated from the seed value as
  needed, and yet to have each "new copy" be the same as all the
  others because the seed calue hasn't changed.

Global namespace: Referring to the fact that most muds rely on characters
  (and sometimes other objects) are given a single and unique name.
  Typing 'who' on most muds gives you a list of these; if you see
  someone named Bob you know that he is the only Bob in the world, and
  can't be confused with anyone else.  This is as compared to a system
  of generated descriptions to which players can attach proper names
  as they please, which may or may not overlap or match up with the
  names assigned by other players.

GoP: Short for 'game-oriented play' or possible 'goal-oriented play'.
  This is usually a competitive style of play usually oriented around
  the accumlation of various resources (money, power, combat ability).

Markup language: An internal set of codes used by a server to generate
  semi-dynamic messages.  An example is "%c dives %I %o" which might result
  in "Bubba dives behind the wall", "A woman dives into the pool", or
  any number of other strings.

mud or MUD: It is not an acronym.  It is a collective term for all the
  types of games discussed on this list, including both RP and GoP.

Object: Because most of the servers discussed here are
  object-oriented, the word object is being used in its general
  programming sense to include characters, locations, inanimate items,
  and so forth, rather than referring to only inanimate items as is
  typical in some mud servers.

Realism: This is not necessarily corespondance to the real world, but
  rather refers to internal consitency.  In many cases using the
  working of real world systems (physics, for example) is a good
  example for how to build a consistent system for a game world.

Repop: See Reset.

Reset: Usually a function called in a mud at irregular intervals, the
  purpose of which is to put back the game, or some fragment of the
  game or game world into a known state.  Typically this might mean
  locking an opened door, or resurrecting an NPC that was killed by a
  player and putting him back to guard the door,  Resets and repops
  are common on games that promote repetitive actions for advancement.

Skill net: A single layered skill web. Skills are directly weighted to
  each other.  See skill web (NY)

Skill tree: A skill system where skills have a single parent and
  several children.  A skills at the bottom of the tree being very
  specialised.  Skills higher up the tree will affect the value of
  skills further down.

Skill web: a non-heirarchical two layered skill system wherin each
  skill is weight-related to an arbitrary number of attributes, and
  the improvement of skills therefore automatically improves related
  skills. Examples of skills might be rowing and flycasting, examples
  of attributes, strength (upper arm) and precision (forearm).  [Note:
  I triple weight my skill web, so that there are direct connections
  to the condition of the character's body and mind, and so that the
  resiliance of same are improved by conditioning. Nathan Y] [Note 2:
  The web is modeled after a simple neural net design I found in
  Dr. Dobbs' Journal. Nathan Y]

Verb binding: Attaching verbs to an object, such as 'fly' to a
  jetpack.  The command essentially does not exist when you don't have
  the jetpack.


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<LI><strong><A NAME="00200" HREF="msg00200.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Unique items</A></strong>, 
JC Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,Eng.Sun.COM">claw#under,Eng.Sun.COM</a>, Sun 11 Jan 1998, 21:31 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00197" HREF="msg00197.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Unique items (was: Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online)</A></strong>, 
JC Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,Eng.Sun.COM">claw#under,Eng.Sun.COM</a>, Sun 11 Jan 1998, 21:01 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00338" HREF="msg00338.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Unique items (was: Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online)</A></strong>, 
Brandon J. Rickman <a href="mailto:ashes#pc4,zennet.com">ashes#pc4,zennet.com</a>, Thu 29 Jan 1998, 00:54 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00343" HREF="msg00343.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Unique items (was: Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online)</A></strong>, 
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user2,inficad.com">nightfall#user2,inficad.com</a>, Fri 30 Jan 1998, 07:37 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00377" HREF="msg00377.html">Monthly FAQ posting</A></strong>, 
Ling <a href="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk">K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk</a>, Tue 03 Feb 1998, 18:10 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00467" HREF="msg00467.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Unique items (was: Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online)</A></strong>, 
coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Sun 15 Feb 1998, 10:24 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00466" HREF="msg00466.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Unique items (was: Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online)</A></strong>, 
coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Sun 15 Feb 1998, 04:44 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00490" HREF="msg00490.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Unique items (was: Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online)</A></strong>, 
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user1,inficad.com">nightfall#user1,inficad.com</a>, Mon 16 Feb 1998, 13:56 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00510" HREF="msg00510.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Unique items (was: Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online)</A></strong>, 
coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Tue 17 Feb 1998, 08:15 GMT
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