<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Commercial value of RP --> <!--X-From-R13: Qnyvona Fverfvnf Rnexybpx <pnyvonaNqnexybpx.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 16:16:29 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199801081621.KAA13204#helius,host4u.net --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Mike Sellers's message of Thu, 8 Jan 1998 06:37:38 PST8PDT --> <!--X-Reference: 3.0.32.19980107213224.00712fa4@online-alchemy.com --> <!--X-Reference: 7eg1mzyn8q.fsf#petra,zesoi.fer.hr --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Commercial value of RP</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00115.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00117.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00115.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00119.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00116">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00116">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00116">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Commercial value of RP</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Commercial value of RP</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Caliban Tiresias Darklock <<A HREF="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 11:25:30 -0500</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Sometime at or around 08:01 AM 1/8/98 +0000, I personally witnessed Miroslav Silovic jumping up to shout: > >I'd think that it would be >possible to design a way to financially compensate players who turn >former hack/social MUD into immersive roleplaying experience (MUSHers >do it for free... ;) ) - in the form of free hours, for instance. > >Of course, the challenge is to do it in the way that'd be fair to all >the players. A similar situation: In most RPGs, you receive XP bonuses for good roleplay. On most MUDs, you receive XP for combat. Period. A challenge I've often looked at and considered is how to reward the roleplayers without being unfair to the combat folks -- for example, on most White Wolf-based systems, you receive XP *only* for RP and never for combat. As a result, combat is rather rare. On most MUDs, as I've mentioned, there are XP for combat but never for RP. As a result, of course, RP is considered a waste of time (what does it get you?) and hence not invested in. I've considered a few ways of handling this, but I'm having real difficulty coming up with something fair. Has anyone managed to come up with an equitable method of awarding RP-based XP with an automated system, or does anyone have any thoughts on the matter? +-[Caliban Tiresias Darklock]-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-[caliban#darklock,com]-+ | Darklock Communications <A HREF="http://www.darklock.com/">http://www.darklock.com/</A> | | The Darklock Sound <A HREF="http://www.darklock.com/darksound/">http://www.darklock.com/darksound/</A> | | Making Waves Unofficial Music Site <A HREF="http://www.darklock.com/mwave/">http://www.darklock.com/mwave/</A> | | "We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams." | | Send e-mail for PGP public key in response: caliban-pgp#darklock,com | +-[PGP fingerprint 9145 99B1 9AAE 9911 10AF 503B 55D9 6E8D 8F8C 1519]-+ </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00119" HREF="msg00119.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Commercial value of RP</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> The Eternal City <eternal#eternal,eternal-city.com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00114" HREF="msg00114.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Commercial value of RP</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Mike Sellers <mike#online-alchemy,com></LI></UL></LI> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00115" HREF="msg00115.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Commercial value of RP</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Miroslav Silovic <silovic#zesoi,fer.hr></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00115.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Commercial value of RP</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00117.html">request for comments (was: Mud-Dev FAQ)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00115.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Commercial value of RP</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00119.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Commercial value of RP</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00116"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00116"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>RE: [MUD-Dev] Commercial value of RP</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00102" HREF="msg00102.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Commercial value of RP</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Thu 08 Jan 1998, 01:38 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00124" HREF="msg00124.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Commercial value of RP</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vadimt#4cs,com">vadimt#4cs,com</a>, Thu 08 Jan 1998, 21:15 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00114" HREF="msg00114.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Commercial value of RP</A></strong>, Mike Sellers <a href="mailto:mike#online-alchemy,com">mike#online-alchemy,com</a>, Thu 08 Jan 1998, 14:20 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00115" HREF="msg00115.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Commercial value of RP</A></strong>, Miroslav Silovic <a href="mailto:silovic#zesoi,fer.hr">silovic#zesoi,fer.hr</a>, Thu 08 Jan 1998, 15:57 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00116" HREF="msg00116.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Commercial value of RP</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Thu 08 Jan 1998, 16:16 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00119" HREF="msg00119.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Commercial value of RP</A></strong>, The Eternal City <a href="mailto:eternal#eternal,eternal-city.com">eternal#eternal,eternal-city.com</a>, Thu 08 Jan 1998, 17:12 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00125" HREF="msg00125.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Commercial value of RP</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Thu 08 Jan 1998, 21:38 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00219" HREF="msg00219.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Commercial value of RP</A></strong>, The Eternal City <a href="mailto:eternal#eternal,eternal-city.com">eternal#eternal,eternal-city.com</a>, Mon 12 Jan 1998, 19:29 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00168" HREF="msg00168.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Commercial value of RP</A></strong>, JC Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,Eng.Sun.COM">claw#under,Eng.Sun.COM</a>, Sat 10 Jan 1998, 03:38 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>