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<LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] The MLI Project</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</A> (Chris Gray)</LI>
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[Caliban:]
:One of the things I've been enamored with lately is a throwback to Ultima
:1. If anyone remembers that game, the way it worked was that you wandered
:around in a tile-based graphic world until you got to a dungeon, and then
:it went to a 3D first person view. So I got to thinking...
I played a bit of the early ones on a friend's Apple-II. Is it true that
there was also a space mode on the first one? It doesn't sound reasonable,
but that's what I was told.
I've always liked that format. I did a game system for CP/M that used the
combination (I had a graphics card on my CP/M computer). I later ported
it to the Amiga, but the graphics weren't good enough, so it never went
anywhere. The CP/M version required specific additions to my linker to
make it fit - there were something like 20 bytes of memory left when it
and the scenario were loaded.
I've thought about it for my AmigaMUD system, too. There is a tile graphics
capability just for that surface mode, and I've thought of constructing
simple tunnel views by cutting and pasting various elements of walls
and floors, etc. Nothing real-time, but still could be reasonable. One
definitional problem I have is what to do for encounters (PC's, NPC's)
in the maze area. Ultima went to a third display mode for tactical stuff,
but I don't think that would be appropriate for a MUD, since the arrival
of wandering NPC's or other PC's could then trigger a mode switch - bad
user interface design! I also don't like some of the alternatives - the
icons for PC's and NPC's bumping into each other, and thus blocking
passage unnecessarily; the icons overlaying each other, resulting in an
often incomprehensible blur of jiggling pixels; etc.
:How realistic is this? Let's say I have a great sense of smell. That blob
:is supposed to represent the pile of horse manure in the corner? What if I
:go into some location and there's a bucket of spoiled milk? Would I be able
:to see anything in the room at all? ;)
:
:This is a fantastic idea for "detect magic" or the like, though.
I was thinking more of the positional senses, such as the "detect magic"
and "heat sense". With a set of three speakers, sound might work, but I
suspect most humans would be poor at locating a sound within the area of
a small monitor. Smell will have to wait for appropriate output devices.
There are graphical alternatives, however. How about showing sounds as
a slight jiggling or wavering of the image (along with coming out of your
stereo speakers, arranged beside your monitor, of course). Or smells
resulting in a wavering general clouding (colours wash out) of the image?
The "colour" of the misting could vary depending on a classification of
the smell according to a few basic smell components (rotten, acrid,
flowery, chemical, etc.). The strength of the misting could vary by the
strength of the smells, with a weak one being barely noticeable.
:Ugh. I hate numeric values in displays. "There is a rank 14 magic aura over
:THERE." Uhhhh... what the hell does that mean? ;)
Agree, but I couldn't have alternativeS unless I presented more than one!
Also, it seems some people really like numbers.
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Chris Gray cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00591" HREF="msg00591.html">Senses (was: The MLI Project)</A></strong>,
s001gmu <a href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</a>, Wed 25 Feb 1998, 17:52 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00588" HREF="msg00588.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The MLI Project</A></strong>,
Ling <a href="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk">K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk</a>, Wed 25 Feb 1998, 12:49 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00589" HREF="msg00589.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The MLI Project</A></strong>,
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Wed 25 Feb 1998, 16:16 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00769" HREF="msg00769.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The MLI Project</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Thu 19 Mar 1998, 22:08 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00603" HREF="msg00603.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The MLI Project</A></strong>,
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Thu 26 Feb 1998, 07:06 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00606" HREF="msg00606.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] The MLI Project</A></strong>,
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Thu 26 Feb 1998, 15:17 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00576" HREF="msg00576.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Net protocols for MUDing (was: Moore's Law sucks)</A></strong>,
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Tue 24 Feb 1998, 09:35 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00579" HREF="msg00579.html">Net protocols for MUDing</A></strong>,
s001gmu <a href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</a>, Tue 24 Feb 1998, 14:56 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00581" HREF="msg00581.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Net protocols for MUDing (was: Moore's Law sucks)</A></strong>,
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Tue 24 Feb 1998, 18:54 GMT
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