<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Net protocols for MUDing (was: Moore's Law sucks) --> <!--X-From-R13: X Q Znjerapr <pynjNhaqre.rate.ftv.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 00:06:29 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199803200006.QAA35466#under,engr.sgi.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199803012210.PAA28094#user1,inficad.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Net protocols for MUDing (was: Moore's Law sucks</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00776.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00778.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00862.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00837.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00775">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00775">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00775">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Net protocols for MUDing (was: Moore's Law sucks)</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Net protocols for MUDing (was: Moore's Law sucks) </LI> <LI><em>From</em>: J C Lawrence <<A HREF="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:06:26 -0800</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Sun, 1 Mar 1998 14:13:23 PST8PDT Adam Wiggins<nightfall#user1,inficad.com> wrote: > So here's a question to you, Chris, and all those that have remained > silent on this thus far: which do you prefer - a client whose speed > is directly proportional to the speed of your internet connection so > that you can rely on every client always being 100% "correct", or > one which runs at its own framerate (hopefully 30fps or better) > attempting to display what data it has about the world as best it > can, resulting in some inconsistencies (or perhaps many if your > connection is very unstable)? The latter. Note: Even sitting at the fat end of an OC3 (as I was this weekend) I still got horrendous lag from a couple sites. Nothing to do with my end. Everything to do with a tinpot router with indigestion at their end. I want a "best effort" representation from the client which sacrifices verisimiltude and other forms of fidelity for the sake of performance when resources get low, be the CPU, bandwidth, whatever. > I know which one I'd choose, but I > wonder how many people feel the same? Or perhaps there should be > some sort of consistency sliders in the options screen which change > how much prediction it does on its own, and how much it relies on > the server for? Possible, but rather expensive to implement... -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#null,net (Contractor) Internet: coder#ibm,net ---------(*) Internet: claw#under,engr.sgi.com ...Honourary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00837" HREF="msg00837.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Net protocols for MUDing (was: Moore's Law sucks)</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Adam Wiggins <nightfall#user2,inficad.com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00662" HREF="msg00662.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Net protocols for MUDing (was: Moore's Law sucks)</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Adam Wiggins <nightfall#user1,inficad.com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00776.html">(fwd) Functional Security</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00778.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Transport layer (UDP vs TCP)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00862.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Net protocols for MUDing</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00837.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Net protocols for MUDing (was: Moore's Law sucks)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00775"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00775"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Net protocols for MUDing</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00673" HREF="msg00673.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Net protocols for MUDing</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user1,inficad.com">nightfall#user1,inficad.com</a>, Tue 03 Mar 1998, 06:09 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00793" HREF="msg00793.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Net protocols for MUDing</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Fri 20 Mar 1998, 17:58 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00795" HREF="msg00795.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Net protocols for MUDing</A></strong>, Shawn Halpenny <a href="mailto:malachai#iname,com">malachai#iname,com</a>, Fri 20 Mar 1998, 18:57 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00862" HREF="msg00862.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Net protocols for MUDing</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Mon 23 Mar 1998, 20:53 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00775" HREF="msg00775.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Net protocols for MUDing (was: Moore's Law sucks)</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Fri 20 Mar 1998, 00:06 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00837" HREF="msg00837.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Net protocols for MUDing (was: Moore's Law sucks)</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user2,inficad.com">nightfall#user2,inficad.com</a>, Mon 23 Mar 1998, 07:41 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00666" HREF="msg00666.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Net protocols for MUDing (was: Moore's Law sucks)</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Mon 02 Mar 1998, 09:28 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00790" HREF="msg00790.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Net protocols for MUDing (was: Moore's Law sucks)</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Fri 20 Mar 1998, 16:36 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00792" HREF="msg00792.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Net protocols for MUDing (was: Moore's Law sucks)</A></strong>, Joel Dillon <a href="mailto:emily#cornholio,new.ox.ac.uk">emily#cornholio,new.ox.ac.uk</a>, Fri 20 Mar 1998, 17:05 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>