<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript --> <!--X-From-R13: "Xba O. Znzoreg" <Xba.O.ZnzoregNvk.argpbz.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 03:02:13 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199802280302.VAA21092@dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199802270543.XAA15692@dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.LNX.3.96.980227173935.341B-100000#shamen,cyberhighway.net --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00638.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00640.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00634.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00770.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00639">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00639">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00639">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Jon A. Lambert" <<A HREF="mailto:Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com">Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 22:05:11 -5</LI> <LI><em>Reply-to</em>: <A HREF="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On 27 Feb 98 at 16:51, Ben Greear wrote: > On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Jon A. Lambert wrote: > > > Yep. Big problem. Will they ever? Not if IE supplants Netscape and > > Sun doesn't cry uncle and remove or revise certain "MS offensive" > > specifications from the 1.1 JDK. BTW, This is not a diatribe either > > way, just an observation of the current state. > > > > One can get most of the 1.1 JDK to work in most browsers. It's just > > a real pain in the ass to find out what to stay way from. The > > only alternative is to maintain different versions. (groan) > > Thats not really true. AFAIK, only netscape 4.04 with the java > patch and IE 4.01 will run JDK 1.1. I think Netscape 4.0x with a > patch will kinda run 1.1. Hotjava and stuff will, of course...but > no one has it.. > You are correct. My goof. The 4.x browsers only account for about 20% of the market currently. > > > > ActiveX is supported by Netscape and IE so thats 80%+ of your > > web clients (Lynx be damned!). However, I don't know of any non-MS > > server-side support for ActiveX. JavaBeans are also easier to code > > and understand. > > Hmmm, might have been a misunderstanding here. activator is a > product from sun that will leverages a JRE or JDK (the latest, or > you're choice) to run applets. It's a plugin, and they supposedly > work with netscape 3.03+ and IE 3.??+. Last time I tried my applet > it choked though..although from Solaris it did quite nicely. > I guess so. I'd hadn't heard of Activator. Sounds like it redirects the execution of the bytecode over to the Sun VM. Hmmm... Another layer of interface? -- --/*\ Jon A. Lambert - TychoMUD Internet:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com /*\-- --/*\ Mud Server Developer's Page <<A HREF="http://www.netcom.com/~jlsysinc">http://www.netcom.com/~jlsysinc</A>> /*\-- --/*\ "Everything that deceives may be said to enchant" - Plato /*\-- </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00615" HREF="msg00615.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "Jon A. 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Lambert <a href="mailto:Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com">Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 26 Feb 1998, 05:41 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00601" HREF="msg00601.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Thu 26 Feb 1998, 06:21 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00615" HREF="msg00615.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com">Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com</a>, Fri 27 Feb 1998, 05:43 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00634" HREF="msg00634.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Sat 28 Feb 1998, 00:44 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00639" HREF="msg00639.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com">Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sat 28 Feb 1998, 03:02 GMT </LI> </LI> </LI> </LI> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00770" HREF="msg00770.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Thu 19 Mar 1998, 22:41 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00595" HREF="msg00595.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Thu 26 Feb 1998, 03:21 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00599" HREF="msg00599.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com">Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 26 Feb 1998, 05:41 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00602" HREF="msg00602.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Thu 26 Feb 1998, 06:24 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>