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<LI><em>From</em>: "Jon A. Lambert" &lt;<A HREF="mailto:Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com">Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com</A>&gt;</LI>
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On 27 Feb 98 at 16:51, Ben Greear wrote:
&gt; On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Jon A. Lambert wrote:
&gt; 
&gt; &gt; Yep.  Big problem.  Will they ever?  Not if IE supplants Netscape and 
&gt; &gt; Sun doesn't cry uncle and remove or revise certain "MS offensive" 
&gt; &gt; specifications from the 1.1 JDK.  BTW, This is not a diatribe either 
&gt; &gt; way, just an observation of the current state.  
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; One can get most of the 1.1 JDK to work in most browsers.  It's just
&gt; &gt; a real pain in the ass to find out what to stay way from.  The 
&gt; &gt; only alternative is to maintain different versions. (groan)
&gt; 
&gt; Thats not really true.  AFAIK, only netscape 4.04 with the java
&gt; patch and IE 4.01 will run JDK 1.1.  I think Netscape 4.0x with a
&gt; patch will kinda run 1.1.  Hotjava and stuff will, of course...but
&gt; no one has it..
&gt;

You are correct.  My goof.  The 4.x browsers only account for about 
20% of the market currently.  
 
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; ActiveX is supported by Netscape and IE so thats 80%+ of your 
&gt; &gt; web clients (Lynx be damned!).  However, I don't know of any non-MS 
&gt; &gt; server-side support for ActiveX.  JavaBeans are also easier to code 
&gt; &gt; and understand. 
&gt; 
&gt; Hmmm, might have been a misunderstanding here.  activator is a
&gt; product from sun that will leverages a JRE or JDK (the latest, or
&gt; you're choice) to run applets.  It's a plugin, and they supposedly
&gt; work with netscape 3.03+ and IE 3.??+.  Last time I tried my applet
&gt; it choked though..although from Solaris it did quite nicely.
&gt; 

I guess so.  I'd hadn't heard of Activator.   Sounds like it 
redirects the execution of the bytecode over to the Sun VM.
Hmmm... Another layer of interface?

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<LI><strong><A NAME="00598" HREF="msg00598.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Java and Javascript</A></strong>, 
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com">Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 26 Feb 1998, 05:41 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00601" HREF="msg00601.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Java and Javascript</A></strong>, 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00615" HREF="msg00615.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Java and Javascript</A></strong>, 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00634" HREF="msg00634.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Java and Javascript</A></strong>, 
Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Sat 28 Feb 1998, 00:44 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00639" HREF="msg00639.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Java and Javascript</A></strong>, 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00595" HREF="msg00595.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Java and Javascript</A></strong>, 
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Thu 26 Feb 1998, 03:21 GMT
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