<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript --> <!--X-From-R13: pbqreNvoz.arg --> <!--X-Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 00:41:44 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199802140027.AAA10550#out4,ibm.net --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.LNX.3.91.980128141211.65C-100000@uni-corn.demon.co.uk --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:coder#ibm,net"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00455.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00457.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00344.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00462.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00456">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00456">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00456">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 13 Feb 98 16:15:06 -0800</LI> <LI><em>Reply-to</em>: <A HREF="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On 28/01/98 at 07:10 PM, Greg Munt <greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk> said: >Hope you can help me. I'm looking to implement some sort of graphical >client, within a web browser. I know that this has been done before, >without requiring the page to be reloaded. They used either Java or >Javascript, can't remember which. Of necessity it would be JavaScript. Java can be embedded in Web pages, be used for standalone applications, etc. Javascript can only be embedded in web pages. >IIRC, Java is useful on the networking side, whilst Javascript is useful >when you need firm control of the browser itself. Does anyone care to >supply advantages/disadvantages of each, and what each should be ideally >used for? Iwoudl start with arguing why the browser interface is actually useful to you as a MUD interface. Note that I am not arguing against using the broswer interface to reach to the MUD, but using the browser interface during your MUD interactions. I don't see much use for Forward and Back buttons while MUDding, or Bookmarks, etc. It makes more sense to me to have the browser lauch a Java application ala plug-in. >Should I be looking at both Java *and* Javascript, to complement each >other, or should I concentrate on using just one of them? How much of the > Java/Javascript functionality does the potential DHTML/DOM standard >encompass? Not much. See www.w3.org. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#null,net ----------(*) Internet: coder#ibm,net ...Honourary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00462" HREF="msg00462.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Matt Chatterley <matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00337" HREF="msg00337.html">Java and Javascript</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Greg Munt <greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00455.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] 3D graphics (Was: The impact of the web on muds)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00457.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Source Code Release</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00344.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00462.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00456"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00456"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] MetaVoice, MetaFont</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00352" HREF="msg00352.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] MetaVoice, MetaFont</A></strong>, JC Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,Eng.Sun.COM">claw#under,Eng.Sun.COM</a>, Fri 30 Jan 1998, 18:42 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00341" HREF="msg00341.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Arctic's Project?</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Thu 29 Jan 1998, 15:49 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00337" HREF="msg00337.html">Java and Javascript</A></strong>, Greg Munt <a href="mailto:greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk">greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk</a>, Wed 28 Jan 1998, 21:22 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00344" HREF="msg00344.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Fri 30 Jan 1998, 08:18 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00456" HREF="msg00456.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Sat 14 Feb 1998, 00:41 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00462" HREF="msg00462.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org">matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Sat 14 Feb 1998, 19:00 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00494" HREF="msg00494.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Mon 16 Feb 1998, 20:15 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00502" HREF="msg00502.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org">matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Mon 16 Feb 1998, 23:36 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00508" HREF="msg00508.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Tue 17 Feb 1998, 04:55 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>