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<LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</A> (Chris Gray)</LI>
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[Caliban:]

[Sorry for the incomplete quoted lines - they got chopped off.]

:So you don't consider Java just as proprietary as NSAPI and ASP, even though S
:repeatedly lied and cheated in its presentation of the technology?

Lets ignore politics here (and I haven't the faintest idea of what you are
going on about anyway). From my point of view, I have official specs on
the Java language and libraries. That allows me to write portable programs,
that will run on UNIX machines, Windows machines, BeBoxes, etc. *That* is
what makes Java worth considering in any kind of project that involves
networks and communications.

:Well, considering I was trying to come up with solutions that would be more fe
:with the release of the Netscape source, I don't think platform-independence h
:place in the list.

Huh? Netscape runs on lots of platforms. Using it doesn't necessarily
break any platform-independent issues, so I think platform-independence
is a very good thing to have in a list of desireable attributes.

:JavaScript is not designed to do heavy-duty programming. Neither were most MUD
:programming languages. The advantage I see here are that people already know i
:value outside the MUD, and the developer can worry about other things instead
:building a language to work in. Of course, people will complain that it isn't
:compiled or even tokenised and how can you take any interpreted language serio
:anyway?

That attribute of JavaScript is precisely why I think it is a poor choice
for a MUD server programming language. Here I'll present some opinions of
mine. Learning a new well-designed language is easy (learning some of the
god-awful scripting languages with excessive amounts of escapes, wierd
syntaxes, etc. is not easy). Implementing an interpreter for a well-designed
language is easy. Yes, easy. The stress is on well-designed.

:True enough. In which case, write a C compiler. Any decent CompSci graduate,
:incidentally, already has. ;&gt;

God, I hope not! What a horrible thing to force on the poor students
trying to learn what programming languages are all about, and what the
important things about writing compilers are. Pick a decent language,
without so many levels of interpretation and goofy rules.

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Chris Gray   cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA

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<ul><li>Thread context:
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<LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] 3D graphics (Was: The impact of the web on muds)</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00326" HREF="msg00326.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] 3D graphics (Was: The impact of the web on muds)</A></strong>, 
Jon Leonard <a href="mailto:jleonard#divcom,umop-ap.com">jleonard#divcom,umop-ap.com</a>, Tue 27 Jan 1998, 01:03 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00328" HREF="msg00328.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] 3D graphics (Was: The impact of the web on muds)</A></strong>, 
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Tue 27 Jan 1998, 08:26 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00452" HREF="msg00452.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] 3D graphics (Was: The impact of the web on muds)</A></strong>, 
coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Fri 13 Feb 1998, 23:05 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00314" HREF="msg00314.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Socket programming - platform specific</A></strong>, 
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sun 25 Jan 1998, 18:55 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00312" HREF="msg00312.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5?</A></strong>, 
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sun 25 Jan 1998, 18:55 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00313" HREF="msg00313.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5?</A></strong>, 
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sun 25 Jan 1998, 18:55 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00319" HREF="msg00319.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5?</A></strong>, 
Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vadimt#4cs,com">vadimt#4cs,com</a>, Mon 26 Jan 1998, 04:17 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00327" HREF="msg00327.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5?</A></strong>, 
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Tue 27 Jan 1998, 07:05 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00302" HREF="msg00302.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]	Clients based on Netscape 5?</A></strong>, 
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sat 24 Jan 1998, 18:19 GMT
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