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<LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Describe Concept </LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: "Jon A. Lambert" <<A HREF="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:09:32 -5</LI>
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On 20 Mar 98 at 10:58, J C Lawrence wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Mar 1998 22:53:29 PST8PDT
> Jon A Lambert<Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com> wrote:
>
> > Should perception be based solely on the object being perceived? I
> > think a great deal of perception code/responsibilty(?) belongs to
> > the perceiver.
>
> > Perhaps the perceiver sends a message to the object:
>
> > Me--> Sting.look("and BTW I'm a drunken, one-eyed, deaf, heroin
> > addict, with a fetish for bright colors and ladies clothing")
>
> > Object--> Me.Sting("There are a few valuable and beautiful jewels
^^^^^^^
Dunno what I was thinking here! It makes little sense.
> > here glued to a metal object. You'll be partying tonight!")
>
> > Or not...
>
> That is almost exactly what I do for all senses:
>
> viewer -> object: May I sense you?
> object Do I want him to sense me? Yes/no.
>
> Of course kick back if no.
>
> object -> container: Would you affect a sense report from me to
> viewer?
> container -> other objects in container: Would you affect a sense
> report from object to
> viewer?
> other objects -> container: yes/no/how
> container -> object: yes/no/how
>
> This is of course recursive for multiple levels of containment. As I
> also have multiple parallel forms of containment, this also recurses
> down those lines.
Yes the multiple-parallel aspect is interesting. What about
combining this with more abstract and temporary containment
mechanisms. For instance, using the Neighborhood as an assembly and
brokering point for sensory information. :)
Viewer -> Neighborhood "May I "generally" sense this place"
Neighborhood -> "Sure hang on" or "Get lost chump you're deaf, dumb
and blind. Go play pinball or something"
If OK
Neighborhood -> Buildings, Terrain, Crowd "Would you like to expose
yourself to the viewer"
Crowd -> membership "Hey anybody does this veiwer sense you"
Member1 -> Crowd "I am just a nameless face"
Member2 -> Crowd "ditto"
Member3 -> Crowd "You bet HE does, I'm a long-legged, buxom red head"
Crowd -> Neighborhood "OK here's the dope, the viewers eyes are drawn
to a voluptuous..."
Terrain -> Neighborhood "This is a street in the city"
Buildings -> Neighborhood "Sure there's an apothecary here, a
tavern with a sign..."
Neighborhood -> Veiwer "OK terrain is blah, buildings blah blah ,
there is crowd that is blah blah blah"
For a more specific request:
Viewer -> Neighborhood "Hey about this redhead dame with the
fantastic gams"
Neighborhood -> Crowd "Hey veiwer is ogling some redhead dame; you
know anything about her?"
Crowd -> Neighborhood "No can do, not here. (She split the scene
with a this hunk of a dwarf)"
Neighborhood -> Veiwer "Sorry chump you lost sight of her in the
crowd, you keep dreaming"
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<LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Net protocols for MUDing</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00803" HREF="msg00803.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Net protocols for MUDing</A></strong>,
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sat 21 Mar 1998, 02:29 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00661" HREF="msg00661.html">Describe Concept</A></strong>,
Stephen Zepp <a href="mailto:zoran#enid,com">zoran#enid,com</a>, Sun 01 Mar 1998, 22:05 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00674" HREF="msg00674.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Describe Concept</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com">Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com</a>, Tue 03 Mar 1998, 07:01 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00794" HREF="msg00794.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Describe Concept</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Fri 20 Mar 1998, 18:40 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00832" HREF="msg00832.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Describe Concept</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Mon 23 Mar 1998, 00:07 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00842" HREF="msg00842.html">[MUD-Dev] Old code</A></strong>,
Joel Dillon <a href="mailto:emily#cornholio,new.ox.ac.uk">emily#cornholio,new.ox.ac.uk</a>, Mon 23 Mar 1998, 14:38 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00844" HREF="msg00844.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Old code</A></strong>,
Michael Hohensee <a href="mailto:michael#sparta,mainstream.net">michael#sparta,mainstream.net</a>, Mon 23 Mar 1998, 16:19 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00865" HREF="msg00865.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Describe Concept</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Mon 23 Mar 1998, 21:42 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00883" HREF="msg00883.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Describe Concept</A></strong>,
Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Wed 25 Mar 1998, 05:11 GMT
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