<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Senses (was: The MLI Project) --> <!--X-From-R13: f001tzhNabin.jevtug.rqh --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 17:52:10 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.PMDF.3.95.980225123302.543414358A-100000#nova,wright.edu --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199802251645.LAA02632#relay,mnsinc.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Senses (was: The MLI Project)</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00590.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00592.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00590.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00588.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00591">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00591">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00591">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Senses (was: The MLI Project)</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Senses (was: The MLI Project)</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</A></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 12:52:33 -0500 (EST)</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Caliban Tiresias Darklock wrote: > On 01:38 AM 2/25/98 +0000, I personally witnessed Niklas Elmqvist jumping > up to say: > > > >The problem with using a Quake-like graphics engine for a MUD is the > >connotations it bears with it -- players tend to PK each other by default > >(as they do on a regular Quake server). [...] > Making the entire overworld non-combat, however, is not such a great idea. > Which leads to another question: should combat be possible in the overworld > environment, or should combat gate into a Quake-style engine a la the > combat mode in Final Fantasy? How would this be represented in the > overworld engine to other players? I have always been fond of the image of a dust cloud with arms and legs sticking out at all angles, flailing about madly, ala cartoons/Groo. ;) Add some sounds of grunts, the clang of a sword on shield, the occasional grugled scream, etc etc. [...] > How many people > read descriptions on MUDs? Generally you walk into a room and look straight > for things to kill. Uh... I read them. At least once. I vastly prefer to go through an area once, reading everything all the way through. Granted, I turn on brief mode after that, but that first time is very important to me. For standard MUDs. I also have little to no problem with droping the literary premise of a MUD from my project, and have long since done so, but there is something about the 'traditional' MUD that I enjoy. [...] > >but until we get smellcards in > >addition to the soundcards we already have, the sense of smell will be > >hard to reproduce in a computer game. ;) > > Which is something of a shame, since smells are more emotionally evocative > than anything else... Aye, they are, but I tend to play games to get away from all the emotional turmoil of my life, for a little while at least. The last thing I want is to be playing a game and wander across a room that smells the same as my x-gf's shampoo. You'd evoke a very powerfull emotion, aye, but you'd also cause me to leave, quickly. And air out the room. Smell may be a little too powerful. -Greg </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00590" HREF="msg00590.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The MLI Project</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Caliban Tiresias Darklock <caliban#darklock,com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00590.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The MLI Project</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00592.html">bar-time (was Re: [MUD-Dev] The MLI Project)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00590.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The MLI Project</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00588.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The MLI Project</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00591"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00591"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] The MLI Project</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00584" HREF="msg00584.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The MLI Project</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Wed 25 Feb 1998, 07:05 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00585" HREF="msg00585.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The MLI Project</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Wed 25 Feb 1998, 08:09 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00587" HREF="msg00587.html">The MLI Project</A></strong>, Niklas Elmqvist <a href="mailto:d97elm#dtek,chalmers.se">d97elm#dtek,chalmers.se</a>, Wed 25 Feb 1998, 09:34 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00590" HREF="msg00590.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The MLI Project</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Wed 25 Feb 1998, 16:40 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00591" HREF="msg00591.html">Senses (was: The MLI Project)</A></strong>, s001gmu <a href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</a>, Wed 25 Feb 1998, 17:52 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00588" HREF="msg00588.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The MLI Project</A></strong>, Ling <a href="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk">K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk</a>, Wed 25 Feb 1998, 12:49 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00589" HREF="msg00589.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The MLI Project</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Wed 25 Feb 1998, 16:16 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00769" HREF="msg00769.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The MLI Project</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Thu 19 Mar 1998, 22:08 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00603" HREF="msg00603.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The MLI Project</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Thu 26 Feb 1998, 07:06 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>