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<LI><em>From</em>: J C Lawrence <<A HREF="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</A>></LI>
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On Mon, 2 Mar 1998 22:53:29 PST8PDT
Jon A Lambert<Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com> wrote:
> On 1 Mar 98 at 14:13, Stephen Zepp wrote:
>> I'm thinking that each way of observing an object ( scan, look,
>> study ) gives different chances of penetrating disguises, and
>> noting smaller details. One major problem so far that I see is
>> that once you know that Sting has three emeralds and a ruby hidden
>> in the hilt, you should always be able to see them, and if someone
>> points them out to you, you should be able to see them even if your
>> perception sucks ( well, not _always_, but you get the idea).
> Should perception be based solely on the object being perceived? I
> think a great deal of perception code/responsibilty(?) belongs to
> the perceiver.
> Perhaps the perceiver sends a message to the object:
> Me--> Sting.look("and BTW I'm a drunken, one-eyed, deaf, heroin
> addict, with a fetish for bright colors and ladies clothing")
> Object--> Me.Sting("There are a few valuable and beautiful jewels
> here glued to a metal object. You'll be partying tonight!")
> Or not...
That is almost exactly what I do for all senses:
viewer -> object: May I sense you?
object Do I want him to sense me? Yes/no.
Of course kick back if no.
object -> container: Would you affect a sense report from me to
viewer?
container -> other objects in container: Would you affect a sense
report from object to
viewer?
other objects -> container: yes/no/how
container -> object: yes/no/how
This is of course recursive for multiple levels of containment. As I
also have multiple parallel forms of containment, this also recurses
down those lines.
object -> viewer: How do you sense XXX?
XXX derived from object state and interference from containers.
viewer -> object: I would get YYY.
object -> viewer: you sense ZZZ.
ZZZ is XXX modified by YYY.
viewer -> player: There is a sword under the rug by the table.
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00667" HREF="msg00667.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Net protocols for MUDing</A></strong>,
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Mon 02 Mar 1998, 09:35 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00661" HREF="msg00661.html">Describe Concept</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00794" HREF="msg00794.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Describe Concept</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Fri 20 Mar 1998, 18:40 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00832" HREF="msg00832.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Describe Concept</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Mon 23 Mar 1998, 00:07 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00842" HREF="msg00842.html">[MUD-Dev] Old code</A></strong>,
Joel Dillon <a href="mailto:emily#cornholio,new.ox.ac.uk">emily#cornholio,new.ox.ac.uk</a>, Mon 23 Mar 1998, 14:38 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00844" HREF="msg00844.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Old code</A></strong>,
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J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Mon 23 Mar 1998, 21:42 GMT
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