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<LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: what's fun? </LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: J C Lawrence <<A HREF="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 10:11:19 -0700</LI>
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On Sun, 28 Jun 1998 06:19:23 -0400
Richard Bartle<76703.3042#compuserve,com> wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Jun 1998 14:21:52 -0700 J C Lawrence
> <claw#under,engr.sgi.com> Wrote:
>> Mike Sellers<mike#bignetwork,com> wrote:
>>> Does it all come back to Bartle's suits?
>> Nahh, that merely attempts to classify goals.
> Excuse me? Less of the "merely", please...
At the level of the discussion, that of defining "what is fun", my
comment would seem accurate.
> That paper attempts to get MUD designers (among others) to think
> about player dynamics rather than going in blindly. Furthermore, it
> proffers advice as to how to adjust these dynamics. You may disagree
> with any or all of it, but it doesn't "merely" attempt to classify
> goals.
Yes, your paper does do more than merely classify goals, however those
extra values don't seem pertinent to an attempt to define "fun" on a
MUD level. They are pertinent as you say to building a "fun" game,
just not to defining "fun" itself.
Its a question of focus.
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<LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: Databases: was Re: skill system</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00326" HREF="msg00326.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Databases: was Re: skill system</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00027" HREF="msg00027.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Levelless MUDs</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00000" HREF="msg00000.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00002" HREF="msg00002.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>,
Mike Sellers <a href="mailto:mike#bignetwork,com">mike#bignetwork,com</a>, Wed 01 Jul 1998, 17:07 GMT
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